From sentto-44114-16532-1034167046-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Wed Oct 09 05:56:10 2002 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Wed, 09 Oct 2002 05:56:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from n10.grp.scd.yahoo.com ([66.218.66.65]) by digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.05) id 17zGNj-0000jV-00 for lojban-in@lojban.org; Wed, 09 Oct 2002 05:56:07 -0700 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-44114-16532-1034167046-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.66.98] by n10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Oct 2002 12:37:26 -0000 X-Sender: opoudjis@optushome.com.au X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_2_0); 9 Oct 2002 12:37:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 76080 invoked from network); 9 Oct 2002 12:37:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 9 Oct 2002 12:37:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail013.syd.optusnet.com.au) (210.49.20.171) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 Oct 2002 12:37:25 -0000 Received: from optushome.com.au (c17180.brasd1.vic.optusnet.com.au [210.49.155.40]) by mail013.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id g99CbON08460 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 2002 22:37:24 +1000 To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.546) From: Nick Nicholas X-Yahoo-Profile: opoudjis MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@yahoogroups.com; contact lojban-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 22:37:23 +1000 Subject: [lojban] Re: [Announcement] The Alice Translation Has Moved And Changed Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-archive-position: 2025 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: opoudjis@optushome.com.au Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list > I suppose I can't complain about this, since those were the > rules from the beginning, but having done more than 90% of > the translation, I have grown a bit possesive of it. .i .u'i semu'ibo mi cajeba .ainai na cmima lo gumni poi finti lo larcu se ciska > We could argue which one > is better, but I have used this expression in maybe ten or more > places in the book, so changing just one is not really an > improvement. .i gonai ge le ce cusku cu baca'a vrici gi seni'ibo tolmelbi gi'e ku'i na se jatna gi ge do bapli lenu le prosa cu mapti ledo tadji gi seku'ibo pamei le'i fuzme be le se cusku .i caku ro nu cusku lo banzu be le ka pluja bei bau la lojban cu nu vlipa .i le nu vlipa cu .ei se fuzme .i le nu stika lei selsku be loi drata cu ji'a .ei se fuzme And, may I add, no sympathy. If you've been Jorgeanising Pierre's stuff, I say we drop the pretense that the text is collaborative, and make you editor and be done with it. You can't both be one of the team and appropriating the end product, even if you did do 90% of the work. Conversely, if there is no notion of ownership of the text, then there is *nothing* preventing me restoring sane punctuation to the entire text tomorrow. Not that I'd want nothing to do with a text that refuses to put dots before the i's anyway. No smiley there, either. Nick, curmudgeon. *** "Relax."--"yIleS." [Three seconds pause.] "Stop Relaxing!"--"yIleSHa'!" --- the Conversational Klingon tape. http://www.opoudjis.net Dr Nick Nicholas. nickn@unimelb.edu.au nIchyon jIH. nIchyon SoHbe'. nIchyon ghaHbe'. nIchyon tlhIHbe'. nIchyon jIHqu'. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Sell a Home for Top $ http://us.click.yahoo.com/RrPZMC/jTmEAA/MVfIAA/GSaulB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/