From sentto-44114-16592-1034212866-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Wed Oct 09 18:25:47 2002 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Wed, 09 Oct 2002 18:25:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from n38.grp.scd.yahoo.com ([66.218.66.106]) by digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.05) id 17zS57-00084e-00 for lojban-in@lojban.org; Wed, 09 Oct 2002 18:25:41 -0700 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-44114-16592-1034212866-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.67.201] by n38.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Oct 2002 01:21:08 -0000 X-Sender: a.rosta@lycos.co.uk X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_2_0); 10 Oct 2002 01:21:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 82990 invoked from network); 10 Oct 2002 01:21:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m9.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 10 Oct 2002 01:21:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mailbox-7.st1.spray.net) (212.78.202.107) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Oct 2002 01:21:07 -0000 Received: from oemcomputer (host213-121-68-246.surfport24.v21.co.uk [213.121.68.246]) by mailbox-7.st1.spray.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EC17271C5 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 2002 03:21:05 +0200 (DST) To: Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <02100914182018.02775@neofelis> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 From: "And Rosta" X-Yahoo-Profile: andjamin MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@yahoogroups.com; contact lojban-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 02:22:44 +0100 Subject: [lojban] punctuation policy (was: RE: Alice style and finalisation (was:The Alice Translation Has Moved And Changed) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-archive-position: 2087 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: a.rosta@lycos.co.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list pier: > On Wednesday 09 October 2002 11:44, Jorge Llambias wrote: > > You're mostly seeing my final version. In particular, I removed > > the dots from Pierre and Robin's parts to harmonize the whole > > thing. I tried to follow the word order of the original as > > much as possible in keeping with the sense. > > The dots should go back in throughout. The Thais and Ancient Greeks may > disagree, but I find a text without punctuation very hard to read. So do I. Adding question marks, quote marks, etc. makes it a hell of a lot easier to read (though adding in all the full stops makes it harder for me). But given that Lojban had the policy of audiovisual isomorphism and of lexicalizing all punctuation, use of punctuation seems antilojbanic to me, and I feel that we should force ourselves to suffer the absence of punctuation, for the sake of testing the language properly. --And. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Sell a Home with Ease! http://us.click.yahoo.com/SrPZMC/kTmEAA/MVfIAA/GSaulB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/