From sentto-44114-16698-1034710712-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Tue Oct 15 13:06:36 2002 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Tue, 15 Oct 2002 13:06:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from n27.grp.scd.yahoo.com ([66.218.66.83]) by digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.05) id 181XxU-00075l-01 for lojban-in@lojban.org; Tue, 15 Oct 2002 13:06:28 -0700 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-44114-16698-1034710712-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.67.196] by n27.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Oct 2002 19:38:32 -0000 X-Sender: a.rosta@lycos.co.uk X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_2_1); 15 Oct 2002 19:38:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 28991 invoked from network); 15 Oct 2002 19:38:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 15 Oct 2002 19:38:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mailbox-4.st1.spray.net) (212.78.202.104) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Oct 2002 19:38:29 -0000 Received: from oemcomputer (host213-121-71-80.surfport24.v21.co.uk [213.121.71.80]) by mailbox-4.st1.spray.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 496E124EA9 for ; Tue, 15 Oct 2002 21:38:25 +0200 (DST) To: "Lojban@Yahoogroups. Com" Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 From: "And Rosta" X-Yahoo-Profile: andjamin MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@yahoogroups.com; contact lojban-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 20:40:10 +0100 Subject: [lojban] brivla for 'intend' Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252 X-archive-position: 2195 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: a.rosta@lycos.co.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list [2nd attempt to send; sorry if first arrives tomorrow] What is the best brivla for "x intends that p, x intends to p", given that intention does not entail action (or deliberate inaction) and that, ba'e ti'e, intention is a psychological primitive (i.e. doesn't reduce to a complex of other notions)? {selzilterzukte} is a bit of a mouthful, and won't easily crunch down to form other lujvo, and furthermore, what one's goals are is not quite the same as what one intends. For example, one can intend something whose natural tendency is to occur unless actively prevented, so long as one decides not to prevent it. But I wouldn't describe that as one's goal. --And. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Home Selling? Try Us! http://us.click.yahoo.com/QrPZMC/iTmEAA/jd3IAA/GSaulB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/