From sentto-44114-16763-1034904070-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Thu Oct 17 18:26:43 2002 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Thu, 17 Oct 2002 18:26:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from n30.grp.scd.yahoo.com ([66.218.66.87]) by digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.05) id 182LuQ-0000yD-00 for lojban-in@lojban.org; Thu, 17 Oct 2002 18:26:38 -0700 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-44114-16763-1034904070-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.67.201] by n30.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Oct 2002 01:21:13 -0000 X-Sender: Pycyn@aol.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_2_1); 18 Oct 2002 01:21:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 81410 invoked from network); 18 Oct 2002 01:21:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m9.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 18 Oct 2002 01:21:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r02.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.98) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Oct 2002 01:21:12 -0000 Received: from Pycyn@aol.com by imo-r02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id r.76.245ee897 (4529) for ; Thu, 17 Oct 2002 21:21:06 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <76.245ee897.2ae0bc01@aol.com> To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 10509 From: pycyn@aol.com X-Yahoo-Profile: kaliputra MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@yahoogroups.com; contact lojban-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 21:21:05 EDT Subject: [lojban] Re: enlighten Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_76.245ee897.2ae0bc01_boundary" X-archive-position: 2259 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: pycyn@aol.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list --part1_76.245ee897.2ae0bc01_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit All the answers so far have been about bringing to know or understand. What about the "enlighten" of "Enlightenment," some "higher state of consciousness" somewhere along the route to unitive consciousness or whatever? This is not a matter, so they say, of knowing or understanding anything, but of being. Light metaphors again play an important part in talk about this -- though not only light, but also dark (and so dark as light). --part1_76.245ee897.2ae0bc01_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit All the answers so far have been about bringing to know or understand. What about the "enlighten" of "Enlightenment," some "higher state of consciousness" somewhere along the route to unitive consciousness or whatever? This is not a matter, so they say, of knowing or understanding anything, but of being. Light metaphors again play an important part in talk about this -- though not only light, but also dark (and so dark as light).

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