From sentto-44114-16806-1035420072-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Wed Oct 23 21:36:45 2002 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Wed, 23 Oct 2002 21:36:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from n29.grp.scd.yahoo.com ([66.218.66.85]) by digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.05) id 184Zje-0005fs-01 for lojban-in@lojban.org; Wed, 23 Oct 2002 21:36:42 -0700 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-44114-16806-1035420072-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.67.197] by n29.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Oct 2002 00:41:12 -0000 X-Sender: a.rosta@lycos.co.uk X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_2_1); 24 Oct 2002 00:41:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 58293 invoked from network); 24 Oct 2002 00:41:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 24 Oct 2002 00:41:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mailbox-11.st1.spray.net) (212.78.202.111) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Oct 2002 00:41:11 -0000 Received: from oemcomputer (host213-121-71-98.surfport24.v21.co.uk [213.121.71.98]) by mailbox-11.st1.spray.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC9D220CDD for ; Thu, 24 Oct 2002 02:41:09 +0200 (MEST) To: Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: From: "And Rosta" X-Yahoo-Profile: andjamin MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@yahoogroups.com; contact lojban-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 01:42:46 +0100 Subject: [lojban] Re: Brivla for "patient" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-archive-position: 2302 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: a.rosta@lycos.co.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list xorxes: > la and cusku di'e > > >Tsali: > > > I don't know the precise definition for the linguistic term, but doesn't > > > 'jai selgau' cover it and not much more? > > > >In the sense that out of the many other nonpatienty things that are > >jai selgau, only for the patienty things is it the least unobvious > >description? Unfortunately we don't have a rafsi for jai, so it > >will have to be jaizeiselgau. Or jaizeigasnu. Or even, I suppose, > >jaizeigau > > There was consensus at some point to give jai the rafsi 'jaz' > See for example: > > http://balance.wiw.org/~jkominek/lojban/9411/msg00263.html > > However the gi'uste was never updated, so nothing came of that "jaz" it is, then. jazyselgau, or maybe jazgau for short. Interesting to see, from Nick's message you point to, that {re'u} did get born, but {xruti} didn't get deagentivized. I wonder why that was. --And. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Plan to Sell a Home? http://us.click.yahoo.com/J2SnNA/y.lEAA/jd3IAA/GSaulB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/