From sentto-44114-17181-1037921302-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Thu Nov 21 20:22:51 2002 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Thu, 21 Nov 2002 20:22:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from n5.grp.scd.yahoo.com ([66.218.66.89]) by digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.05) id 18F5L5-000466-00 for lojban-in@lojban.org; Thu, 21 Nov 2002 20:22:47 -0800 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-44114-17181-1037921302-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.66.94] by n5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Nov 2002 23:28:22 -0000 X-Sender: a.rosta@lycos.co.uk X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_0); 21 Nov 2002 23:28:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 20203 invoked from network); 21 Nov 2002 23:28:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 21 Nov 2002 23:28:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lmsmtp02.st1.spray.net) (212.78.202.112) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 21 Nov 2002 23:28:21 -0000 Received: from oemcomputer (host213-121-68-176.surfport24.v21.co.uk [213.121.68.176]) by lmsmtp02.st1.spray.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14E295B689 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 2002 00:28:20 +0100 (MET) To: Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: From: "And Rosta" X-Yahoo-Profile: andjamin MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@yahoogroups.com; contact lojban-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 23:30:21 -0000 Subject: [lojban] Re: mi nanca li (was: Re: Newbie says hi Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252 X-archive-position: 2670 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: a.rosta@lycos.co.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list xorxes: > la djorden cusku di'e > > >Ok this is a load of crap. You guys are ignoring x3 of nanca; > >there's nothing at all idiom-like or figurative about this usage > > > >The elided zo'e could mean, for example: > > mi nanca li paso zo'e > > mi nanca li paso le kuspe be le te jbena kubi'o le cabna > > > >You guys are assuming it means le kuspe be le te jbena kubi'o lemu'e > >mrobi'o > > I think the standard place was meant to distinguish Earth-years > from other type of years, rather than for the dimension of x1 > to be measured Ah, that makes sense. > In any case, I still think that by the same standard, one can > nanca different numbers at different times Imagine we had truly spatial tenses, for saying things like "such and such is true of such and such a segment of space". How would you feel about me saying "I am 3 foot tall"?, conceiving me as extending to a length of 3 feet in a certain segment of space (the other 3 foot of me being in some other segment of space)? Maybe it's just too weird to reason about coherently. --And. To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/