From sentto-44114-17248-1038510551-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Thu Nov 28 11:09:47 2002 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Thu, 28 Nov 2002 11:09:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from n8.grp.scd.yahoo.com ([66.218.66.92]) by digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.05) id 18HU2g-00006h-01 for lojban-in@lojban.org; Thu, 28 Nov 2002 11:09:42 -0800 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-44114-17248-1038510551-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.67.201] by n8.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Nov 2002 19:09:11 -0000 X-Sender: jjllambias@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_0); 28 Nov 2002 19:09:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 58070 invoked from network); 28 Nov 2002 19:09:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m9.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 28 Nov 2002 19:09:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (216.33.241.40) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Nov 2002 19:09:10 -0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 28 Nov 2002 11:09:10 -0800 Received: from 200.49.74.2 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 28 Nov 2002 19:09:10 GMT To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Bcc: Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Nov 2002 19:09:10.0661 (UTC) FILETIME=[A1EBAB50:01C29711] From: "Jorge Llambias" X-Originating-IP: [200.49.74.2] X-Yahoo-Profile: jjllambias2000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@yahoogroups.com; contact lojban-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2002 19:09:10 +0000 Subject: [lojban] Re: How would you say "plural" and "singular"? Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis X-archive-position: 2735 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@hotmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list la djorden cusku di'e >It's not wrong: the pe happens inside the name. dogs is the same >as the thing called "plural of dog". You're thinking as if he >had said "zoi gy. dogs .gy. du la plural. ku pe zoi gy. dog .gy.". That's what one would expect, but {la plural ku} is not grammatical. {ku} is not allowed with CMENE. >Doesn't change that it's somewhat cheating though. Not just "somewhat". If you must borrow the word, then that's what fu'ivla are for. CMENE are for proper names. So you can say for example: {zoi gy dogs gy plurale zoi gy dog gy}, {zoi gy dog gy singulare zoi gy dogs gy}. mu'o mi'e xorxes _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> ˇFREE Health Insurance Quotes-eHealthInsurance.com http://us.click.yahoo.com/1.voSB/RnFFAA/46VHAA/GSaulB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/