From sentto-44114-17266-1038528898-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Thu Nov 28 16:24:30 2002 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Thu, 28 Nov 2002 16:24:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from n38.grp.scd.yahoo.com ([66.218.66.106]) by digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.05) id 18HYxH-0001x6-01 for lojban-in@lojban.org; Thu, 28 Nov 2002 16:24:27 -0800 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-44114-17266-1038528898-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.67.197] by n38.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Nov 2002 00:14:58 -0000 X-Sender: opoudjis@optushome.com.au X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_0); 29 Nov 2002 00:14:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 9214 invoked from network); 29 Nov 2002 00:14:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 29 Nov 2002 00:14:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cygnus.its.unimelb.EDU.AU) (128.250.20.112) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Nov 2002 00:14:58 -0000 Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON by SMTP.UNIMELB.EDU.AU (PMDF V5.2-29 #46888) id <01KPFS8ZFDZ497CVBT@SMTP.UNIMELB.EDU.AU> for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Fri, 29 Nov 2002 11:14:56 +1100 Received: from [128.250.86.21] (porchermac.language.unimelb.edu.au [128.250.86.21]) by SMTP.UNIMELB.EDU.AU (PMDF V5.2-29 #46888) with ESMTP id <01KPFS8YXUR4978M4M@SMTP.UNIMELB.EDU.AU> for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Fri, 29 Nov 2002 11:14:56 +1100 X-Sender: opoudjis@mail.optushome.com.au To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Message-id: From: Nick Nicholas X-Yahoo-Profile: opoudjis MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@yahoogroups.com; contact lojban-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2002 11:12:39 +1100 Subject: [lojban] Re: [llg-members] Official Statement- LLG Board approves new baseline policy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-archive-position: 2754 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: opoudjis@optushome.com.au Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list To clarify: the brief of the BPFK is to expand on the definition of cmavo, and to fix anything that is manifestly broken in the existing baseline. Expanding the phonotactics of word classes is not fixing something manifestly broken, it is expanding the phonotactic baseline. Therefore the BPFK is reluctant to look at it. By speaking of writing it up in Lojban, Pierre is probably thinking indeed of whatever body will consider revisions to Lojban *after* the baseline. That's at least five years from the publication of the dictionary; and that body is yet to be constituted. We'll get back to it in five years. You can make any suggestion you want to the BPFK, I suspect (though I haven't yet proposed any formal procedures to do so past the cmavo task, which is its major brief.) And do not be surprised if I agitate against it; but sure, we can consider anything. But I state, for the first of many times undoubtedly: this is not open season on revisions. This is a tidying up. This is not to be a negation of the existing baseline. -- **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** * Dr Nick Nicholas, French & Italian Studies nickn@unimelb.edu.au * University of Melbourne, Australia http://www.opoudjis.net * "Eschewing obfuscatory verbosity of locutional rendering, the * circumscriptional appelations are excised." --- W. Mann & S. Thompson, * _Rhetorical Structure Theory: A Theory of Text Organisation_, 1987. * **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/