From sentto-44114-17441-1038880580-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Mon Dec 02 17:56:55 2002 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Mon, 02 Dec 2002 17:56:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from n40.grp.scd.yahoo.com ([66.218.66.108]) by digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.05) id 18J2Iu-0003yb-01 for lojban-in@lojban.org; Mon, 02 Dec 2002 17:56:52 -0800 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-44114-17441-1038880580-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.66.95] by n40.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Dec 2002 01:56:20 -0000 X-Sender: a.rosta@lycos.co.uk X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_0); 3 Dec 2002 01:56:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 96625 invoked from network); 3 Dec 2002 01:56:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m7.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 3 Dec 2002 01:56:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lmsmtp05.st1.spray.net) (212.78.202.115) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Dec 2002 01:56:19 -0000 Received: from oemcomputer (host81-7-55-180.surfport24.v21.co.uk [81.7.55.180]) by lmsmtp05.st1.spray.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DA391FB0B for ; Tue, 3 Dec 2002 02:56:17 +0100 (MET) To: Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: From: "And Rosta" X-Yahoo-Profile: andjamin MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@yahoogroups.com; contact lojban-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2002 01:58:26 -0000 Subject: [lojban] Re: Loglan Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-archive-position: 2928 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: a.rosta@lycos.co.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list xorxes: > la and cusku di'e > > >I just tried googling for Lojban and for Loglan. 384000 hits for Lojban > >6750 hits for Loglan. (Volupuk, 29500; Esperanto, 1,080,000; Novial, > >2000; "Klingon" 398000, Tlingan, 46; Quenya, 35,200; Laadan 3300.) > > I get very similar numbers for those except Esperanto, for which > for some reason I only get 199,000. For English I get 76,700,000 > For Espaņol I get 2,390,000 > > >So someone doing a bit of sustained investigation would soon realize > >that Lojban is 57 times more active than Loglan.. > > Well... They shouldn't jump to such linear conclusions, but they > would have strong evidence that Lojban is more active than Loglan > > >Note that Esperanto > >has only 3 times more hits than Lojban > > And Espaņol only 6 times more! Since there are more than > 300,000,000 native speakers of Spanish, we can estimate the > number of Lojban speakers to be around 50,000,000! :) Measured by net presence we probably sort of are as represented as 50m third world natlangs worth. Anyway it's striking that by at least one independent though ad hoc metric Lojban emerges as the number 2 artificial language after Esperanto. --And. To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/