From rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Mon Dec 02 22:06:14 2002 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Mon, 02 Dec 2002 22:06:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from rlpowell by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.05) id 18J6CB-0006Dm-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Mon, 02 Dec 2002 22:06:11 -0800 Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2002 22:06:11 -0800 To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: nature of debate (was: RE: Re: Why we should cancel the vote or all vote NO (was RE: Official Statement- LLG Board appr Message-ID: <20021203060611.GW1558@digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: lojban-list@lojban.org References: <200212030527.AAA00210@mail2.reutershealth.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200212030527.AAA00210@mail2.reutershealth.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i From: Robin Lee Powell X-archive-position: 2958 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list On Tue, Dec 03, 2002 at 12:12:13AM -0500, John Cowan wrote: > And Rosta scripsit: > > > But more importantly, debates that drag on and on don't drag on > > because new arguments and counterarguments keep on getting raised. > > They drag on partly because the nature of email means we forget what > > has been said, but -- and this is the key point -- mainly because > > people restate the same arguments over and over again. > > That is the key insight on which IBIS, the discourse model on which > the Elephant is based, is based. BTW, your like to IBIS from the Elephant wiki page is, if not broken, at least very strange. -Robin -- http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** I'm a *male* Robin. .i le pamoi velru'e zo'u jmaji le plibu taxfu .i le remoi velru'e zo'u mo .i le cimoi velru'e zo'u ba'e prali .uisai http://www.lojban.org/ *** to sa'a cu'u lei pibyta'u cridrnoma toi