From sentto-44114-17500-1038957184-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Tue Dec 03 21:28:28 2002 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Tue, 03 Dec 2002 21:28:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from n22.grp.scd.yahoo.com ([66.218.66.78]) by digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.05) id 18JS5C-0005Ri-01 for lojban-in@lojban.org; Tue, 03 Dec 2002 21:28:26 -0800 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-44114-17500-1038957184-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.67.200] by n22.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Dec 2002 23:13:05 -0000 X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_0); 3 Dec 2002 23:13:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 86718 invoked from network); 3 Dec 2002 23:13:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m8.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 3 Dec 2002 23:13:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Dec 2002 23:13:04 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.05) id 18JMDw-0001lT-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Tue, 03 Dec 2002 15:13:04 -0800 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 18JMDt-0001lB-00; Tue, 03 Dec 2002 15:13:01 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Tue, 03 Dec 2002 15:13:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from manyas.bcc.bilkent.edu.tr ([139.179.30.24]) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 18JMDn-0001kz-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Tue, 03 Dec 2002 15:12:56 -0800 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by manyas.bcc.bilkent.edu.tr (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFA252720F for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 01:12:24 +0200 (EET) Received: from bilkent.edu.tr (ppp31.bcc.bilkent.edu.tr [139.179.111.33]) by manyas.bcc.bilkent.edu.tr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 285A0271CC for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 01:12:23 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <3DED3C1A.9060603@bilkent.edu.tr> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.1) Gecko/20020826 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en To: lojban-list@lojban.org References: X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS snapshot-20020531 X-archive-position: 2984 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 X-original-sender: robin@bilkent.edu.tr X-list: lojban-list X-eGroups-From: Robin Turner From: Robin Turner X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@yahoogroups.com; contact lojban-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2002 01:19:54 +0200 Subject: [lojban] Re: Arabic, Hindi, Urdu, Simp.Chinese required Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-archive-position: 2994 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: lojban-out@lojban.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list Nick Nicholas wrote: > Lojbanists, I take a break from your scheduled argling to notify you > that the new version of the Level 0 package is up, incorporating Robin > Powell's comments; it also incoporates a pronunciation key in the six > base languages of Lojban. Very nice! The only thing I'd take issue with (which I think I've mentioned before) is the idea that Lojban is more verbose than English because of the lack of unmarked metaphor / idiom. I think this is compensated for by attitudinals and the fact that a lot of grammatical features are optional (tense, aspect etc.). It would also be nice if we could find a more aesthetically pleasing font for Lojban text, but PDF is tricky that way - I've produced unreadable (under Windows) PDF documents by trying to use my favourite font. robin.tr -- "Do unto others what you would like others to do unto you. And have fun doing it." - Linus Torvalds Robin Turner IDMYO, Bilkent University Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/