From sentto-44114-17580-1039106400-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Thu Dec 05 22:27:34 2002 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Thu, 05 Dec 2002 22:27:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from n15.grp.scd.yahoo.com ([66.218.66.70]) by digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.05) id 18KBxU-0006hX-01 for lojban-in@lojban.org; Thu, 05 Dec 2002 22:27:32 -0800 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-44114-17580-1039106400-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.66.97] by n15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Dec 2002 16:40:00 -0000 X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_0); 5 Dec 2002 16:39:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 14791 invoked from network); 5 Dec 2002 16:39:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m14.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 5 Dec 2002 16:39:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Dec 2002 16:39:59 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.05) id 18Jz2d-0007ak-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Thu, 05 Dec 2002 08:39:59 -0800 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 18Jz24-0007aL-00; Thu, 05 Dec 2002 08:39:24 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Thu, 05 Dec 2002 08:39:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from larch.cc.uic.edu ([128.248.155.164]) by digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.05) id 18Jz1z-0007aC-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Thu, 05 Dec 2002 08:39:19 -0800 Received: (qmail 13859 invoked from network); 5 Dec 2002 16:39:15 -0000 Received: from cis5044.uicomp.uic.edu (HELO uic.edu) (128.248.250.44) by larch.cc.uic.edu with SMTP; 5 Dec 2002 16:39:15 -0000 Cc: To: a.rosta@lycos.co.uk In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.548) X-archive-position: 3078 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 X-original-sender: sbelknap@uic.edu X-list: lojban-list From: Steven Belknap MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@yahoogroups.com; contact lojban-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 06:05:05 -0600 Subject: [lojban] Re: Loglan Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-archive-position: 3114 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: sbelknap@UIC.EDU Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list On Wednesday, December 4, 2002, at 07:18 PM, And Rosta wrote: > Robin: >> On Thu, Dec 05, 2002 at 12:52:06AM -0000, And Rosta wrote: >>> Bob McIvor: >>>> Most newcomers to TLI have looked at both languages before deciding >>>> to go with TLI >>> >>> I'm curious as to what their reasons were. Do you know? >>> >>> (I found Loglan (word lists) shortly before Lojban. I never really >>> made a conscious choice between them, >> >> I, on the other hand, did make a concious choice. I was actually >> canvassing all sources I could find for a logical language. The >> *instant* I discovered that Loglan was copywritten, I dropped it in >> favour of lojban > > Yes, that is a good reason. (I am assuming you mean what I would call > "copyrighted" and not "copywritten".) I have never seen a TLI statement > of its position on copyright, though. > > --And. Why is that a good reason? It may have spooked the learly lojbanistani, but an attorney friend with considerable expertise in intellectual property rights tells me that such a claim would be laughed out of a courtroom. Alas, there is nothing certain in law but the expense. As And points out, there isn't any vocabulary copyright statement in the TLI materials. la stivn To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/