From sentto-44114-17610-1039153361-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Fri Dec 06 00:18:24 2002 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Fri, 06 Dec 2002 00:18:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from n39.grp.scd.yahoo.com ([66.218.66.107]) by digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.05) id 18KDgi-0007W7-00 for lojban-in@lojban.org; Fri, 06 Dec 2002 00:18:20 -0800 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-44114-17610-1039153361-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.67.192] by n39.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Dec 2002 05:42:41 -0000 X-Sender: lojbab@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_0); 6 Dec 2002 05:42:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 57085 invoked from network); 6 Dec 2002 05:42:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 6 Dec 2002 05:42:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lakemtao04.cox.net) (68.1.17.241) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 Dec 2002 05:42:40 -0000 Received: from lojban.lojban.org ([68.100.206.153]) by lakemtao04.cox.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.05 201-253-122-122-105-20011231) with ESMTP id <20021206054241.BRGM1248.lakemtao04.cox.net@lojban.lojban.org> for ; Fri, 6 Dec 2002 00:42:41 -0500 Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.0.20021206002825.0398bd10@pop.east.cox.net> X-Sender: rlechevalier@pop.east.cox.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 To: lojban@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: References: <50FFF184-0890-11D7-A3CE-00039362FD2A@macsrule.com> From: Robert LeChevalier X-Yahoo-Profile: lojbab MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@yahoogroups.com; contact lojban-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2002 00:32:38 -0500 Subject: [lojban] Re: Loglan Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis X-archive-position: 3119 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: lojbab@lojban.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list At 02:58 AM 12/6/02 +0000, And Rosta wrote: >Bob McIvor: > > On Mercredi, déce 4, 2002, at 20:13 US/Eastern, And Rosta wrote: > > > Speaking just for myself, I think it would be great if a joint > > > statement from TLI and LLG was sent to members of both groups > > > The statement could make it clear that each group wishes to be > > > welcoming to the other (etc. etc.), and could perhaps also give an > > > honest appraisal of the current situation, which, as I see it, is > > > that as language designs the two are pretty much equivalent (and > > > hence can justly be seen as alternate incarnations of the same > > > underlying design), but in levels of active participation are > > > massively discrepant > > > > I would be willing to go along with this > >Given that Bob McIvor, Lojbab and John Cowan are all supportive >of this, what is the next step necessary to get it actioned? Wait till we get some of the current crises out of the way, so we can focus on that, which will not suffer for a delay of weeks or even a couple months. It will probably be debated by the Board, which given the circumstances will probably offer drafts to the members and the community. Whether it is formally adopted by the Board or by the members will depend on the timing, as well as what seems most appropriate. We may find this one worthy of community ratification as well. >If nobody else volunteers to draft a joint statement, I will, though >I would prefer that somebody more familiar with the history and >cultures of the two communities do it. You can do a draft if you wish, which will serve as input into the discussions that may be informed by such history and culture. Some starting point is better than none. lojbab -- lojbab lojbab@lojban.org Bob LeChevalier, President, The Logical Language Group, Inc. 2904 Beau Lane, Fairfax VA 22031-1303 USA 703-385-0273 Artificial language Loglan/Lojban: http://www.lojban.org To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/