From sentto-44114-17706-1039275931-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Sat Dec 07 07:46:06 2002 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sat, 07 Dec 2002 07:46:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from n35.grp.scd.yahoo.com ([66.218.66.103]) by digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.05) id 18Kh9W-00040b-01 for lojban-in@lojban.org; Sat, 07 Dec 2002 07:46:02 -0800 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-44114-17706-1039275931-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.67.200] by n35.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Dec 2002 15:45:31 -0000 X-Sender: gordon.dyke@bluewin.ch X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_0); 7 Dec 2002 15:45:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 37107 invoked from network); 7 Dec 2002 15:45:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m8.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 7 Dec 2002 15:45:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mta11n.bluewin.ch) (195.186.1.211) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Dec 2002 15:45:30 -0000 Received: from oemcomputer (62.202.157.229) by mta11n.bluewin.ch (Bluewin AG 6.5.032) id 3DD50762002A8D0F for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Sat, 7 Dec 2002 16:45:27 +0100 Message-ID: <010f01c29e07$980acec0$e59dca3e@oemcomputer> To: "jboste" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 From: "G. Dyke" X-Yahoo-Profile: gregvdyke MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@yahoogroups.com; contact lojban-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk Date: Sat, 7 Dec 2002 16:44:41 +0100 Subject: [lojban] support for byfy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-archive-position: 3216 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: gordon.dyke@bluewin.ch Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list Hi I'd just like to point out that I abstained but do have full support for Nick and the BF (insofar as I would like to see a better definition of cmavo and several other things which it seems the bf may do). In the normal course of events, I expect nothing to happen from anything that LLG sets out to do (even though that is a bit unfair, as it has managed to do a lot of stuff), so I wouldn't think voting for or against anything would make the slightest bit of difference As there are some things in the statement which I disagree with (either as impracticable, ridiculous or downright not what I want) I've decided not to vote *for* the statement, just in case people actually do get things done, in which case I can put a sticker on my bumper "don't blame me, I abstained". I have no interest in the baseline, so my lojban will not be rigourously altered by any decisions of the bf or by it clearly saying foo in CLL. I do however like people to understand me when I say something in lojban, so I'll be sticking fairly close to what other people use. (but I won't avoid using something which people falsely claim to misconstrue) The BNF grammar is sacrosanct. I am against any revisions which seek to modify it. I either wants redoing as mark II or leaving as it is. I suggest that those cmavo in xvv might be used to exploit the preparser while experimental/post-199? cmavo be in cvvv. mu'o -- http://www.myepfl.ch/gregory.dyke e'osai ko sarji la lojban - www.lojban.org "That man is such an ignoramus, Father." [...] "Stand inside his soul and see the world through his eyes. You will feel the pain he feels because of his ignorance, and you will not laugh." -- Chaim Potok, "The Chosen" To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/