From sentto-44114-17759-1039313815-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Sat Dec 07 18:17:32 2002 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sat, 07 Dec 2002 18:17:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from n9.grp.scd.yahoo.com ([66.218.66.93]) by digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.05) id 18Kr0X-0003AS-01 for lojban-in@lojban.org; Sat, 07 Dec 2002 18:17:25 -0800 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-44114-17759-1039313815-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.67.194] by n9.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Dec 2002 02:16:55 -0000 X-Sender: a.rosta@lycos.co.uk X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_0); 8 Dec 2002 02:16:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 87445 invoked from network); 8 Dec 2002 02:16:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m12.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 8 Dec 2002 02:16:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lmsmtp02.st1.spray.net) (212.78.202.112) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 8 Dec 2002 02:16:54 -0000 Received: from oemcomputer (host81-7-58-82.surfport24.v21.co.uk [81.7.58.82]) by lmsmtp02.st1.spray.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 047B15B846 for ; Sun, 8 Dec 2002 03:16:53 +0100 (MET) To: Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20021206183557.00a9c050@pop.east.cox.net> X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Importance: Normal From: "And Rosta" X-Yahoo-Profile: andjamin MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@yahoogroups.com; contact lojban-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2002 02:19:05 -0000 Subject: [lojban] schism mending (was: RE: Re: Some concerns from a Lojban beginner Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-archive-position: 3270 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: a.rosta@lycos.co.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list Lojbab: > And if we make a constructive peace with TLI, we will be the language > schism that mended, In the recent discussion about intensifying rapprochement with TLI, the implicit reasons seemed to be (a) recruiting new people to Lojban and (b) being nice. But I support it for the reason Lojbab gives: the fact that every invented language not owned by a single author splits once it has more than half a dozen speakers seems to indicate both the laughable pettiness of invented languages and their homogeneity, their muchofamuchnessness. If the schism were mended, we could boast of being the first conlang to heal its schism and moreover this would serve as concrete proof that we are driven by goals whose rationality is demonstrated by the way they conduce to convergence. (Because I think that schism-mending is valuable, for these reasons, I'd be quite sympathetic to moves the merge the two languages themselves.) --And. To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/