From sentto-44114-17930-1039564591-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Tue Dec 10 22:08:47 2002 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Tue, 10 Dec 2002 22:08:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from n25.grp.scd.yahoo.com ([66.218.66.81]) by digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.05) id 18M031-0005Z7-01 for lojban-in@lojban.org; Tue, 10 Dec 2002 22:08:43 -0800 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-44114-17930-1039564591-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.67.193] by n25.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Dec 2002 23:56:31 -0000 X-Sender: a.rosta@lycos.co.uk X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_0); 10 Dec 2002 23:56:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 30828 invoked from network); 10 Dec 2002 23:56:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m11.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 10 Dec 2002 23:56:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lmsmtp02.st1.spray.net) (212.78.202.112) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Dec 2002 23:56:30 -0000 Received: from oemcomputer (host213-121-68-2.surfport24.v21.co.uk [213.121.68.2]) by lmsmtp02.st1.spray.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD12D5B695 for ; Wed, 11 Dec 2002 00:56:28 +0100 (MET) To: Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Importance: Normal From: "And Rosta" X-Yahoo-Profile: andjamin MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@yahoogroups.com; contact lojban-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 23:56:28 -0000 Subject: [lojban] Re: brochure: aesthetics Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-archive-position: 3441 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: a.rosta@lycos.co.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list Nick: > The use of what looks to me like Optima in the 3rd edition of Loglan 1 > (1975) might mean Optima in my booklets will hearten some as an > instance of Loglan continuity. I'd think that a reason against using it > myself :-) , but Optima *is* way classy It is way classy in the capitals, but sadly that is of no benefit to Lojban, since Lojban eschews capitals and the millennia of exquisite refinement that go with them.... I don't mean to start a flamewar, but I find it a little unhappy that our publications elect to set Lojban text in typefaces chosen to be as ugly as possible without being rejected outright. Choosing, say, a garamond might go a long way to counteracting the ugliness that many hate or delight to discern in Lojban on the page, and at the least it would provide a strikingly contrapuntal effect... This is absolutely not a request or suggestion for the font to change in the book! You have done more than enough work on it & it is time you were shot of it & able to devote yourself to more substantive matters like the arcana of the semantics of never-used cmavo... --And. To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/