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On Friday 10 January 2003 14:47, Lee Daniel Crocker wrote:
> Seems to me the right metaphor for opening/closing a file is
> {kalri} and {ganlo}: we're not opening a container so much as we're
> being granted access (where the "door" is access rights, etc.),
> allowing information to flow between program and disk.  That makes
> the button labels {kargau} and {ga'ogau} (perhaps with {pe'a} if
> desired).

No it's not. {kalri} and {ganlo} are said of doors, not boxes or containers. 
How about {gairvi'u} and {gairpu'i}? {gairgau} and {tolgairgau}?

btw, {ga'ogau} is ungrammatical - {ga'o} indicates a closed *interval* and can 
be used only with BIhI.

phma

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