From phma@ixazon.dynip.com Sun Jan 19 07:55:02 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sun, 19 Jan 2003 07:55:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from 208-150-110-21-adsl.precisionet.net ([208.150.110.21] helo=blackcat.ixazon.lan) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 18aHmj-00087i-00; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 07:54:57 -0800 Received: by blackcat.ixazon.lan (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 8D67C4BB8; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 15:54:18 +0000 (UTC) From: Pierre Abbat Organization: dis To: mbaysATfreeshellDOTorg@flibble.org, Martin Bays , lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: loi preti be fi lo nincli zo'u tu'e Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 10:54:17 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.5 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200301191054.17676.phma@webjockey.net> X-archive-position: 3831 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: phma@webjockey.net Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list On Sunday 19 January 2003 08:33, Martin Bays wrote: li'o > What's the difference between {LE broda pe BAI LE brode} and {LE broda be > BAI LE brode}? mi nelci le fenso pesemau le nivji: I like the sewer more than the knitter (equivalent to {mi zmanei le fenso le nivji}). mi nelci le fenso besemau le nivji: I like the one who sews more than the knitter. There is someone who sews more than the knitter, and whom I like. mi nelci le fenso semau le nivji: I like the sewer more than the knitter. My liking of the sewer exceeds the knitter. What this means is unclear; it would probably be interpreted as ambiguous between {mi nelci le fenso pesemau le nivji} and {mi pesemau le nivji cu nelci le fenso}. Whether any of the three constructions are equivalent in meaning to the others depends on the particular selbri involved. phma