From sentto-44114-18361-1043370454-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Thu Jan 23 17:08:12 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Thu, 23 Jan 2003 17:08:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from n2.grp.scd.yahoo.com ([66.218.66.75]) by digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.05) id 18bsKF-0003af-01 for lojban-in@lojban.org; Thu, 23 Jan 2003 17:08:07 -0800 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-44114-18361-1043370454-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.67.200] by n2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Jan 2003 01:07:36 -0000 X-Sender: jjllambias@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_0); 24 Jan 2003 01:07:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 70826 invoked from network); 24 Jan 2003 01:07:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m8.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 24 Jan 2003 01:07:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (216.33.241.185) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Jan 2003 01:07:31 -0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 23 Jan 2003 17:07:31 -0800 Received: from 67.17.15.38 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 01:07:31 GMT To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Bcc: Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Jan 2003 01:07:31.0600 (UTC) FILETIME=[F89C9900:01C2C344] From: "Jorge Llambias" X-Originating-IP: [67.17.15.38] X-Yahoo-Profile: jjllambias2000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@yahoogroups.com; contact lojban-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 01:07:31 +0000 Subject: [lojban] Re: Some comments on the FAQ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-archive-position: 3874 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@hotmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list la camgusmis cusku di'e >On Fri, Jan 17, 2003 at 08:23:04PM +0000, Jorge Llambias wrote: > > > > la lojbab cusku di'e > > > > > >{djarspageti} is NOT a type-3 fu'ivla. Only consonant ending > > > >rafsi can be used in type-3. > > > > > >That is NOT what CLL says, and it uses djarspageti as an example. > > > > This is the pertinent passage: > > > > Prefix the result of steps 1-5 with a 4-letter rafsi that categorizes >the > > fu'ivla into a ``topic area''. It is only safe to use a 4-letter rafsi; > > short rafsi sometimes produce invalid fu'ivla. > >Note the word 'sometimes'. But I never disputed that djarspageti is a valid fu'ivla. Type-3 require consonant ending rafsi as prefix precisely because other vowel ending rafsi sometimes produce invalid fu'ivla. Other times they produce valid fu'ivla, but they are not Type-3, which are the ones that can be created following the algorithm. Perhaps you are using a different definition of type-3, one that does not allow generating them easily? mu'o mi'e xorxes _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/