From sentto-44114-18384-1043450983-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Fri Jan 24 15:30:28 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Fri, 24 Jan 2003 15:30:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from n30.grp.scd.yahoo.com ([66.218.66.87]) by digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.05) id 18cDHB-0006mh-00 for lojban-in@lojban.org; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 15:30:21 -0800 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-44114-18384-1043450983-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.67.201] by n30.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Jan 2003 23:29:44 -0000 X-Sender: jcowan@reutershealth.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_0); 24 Jan 2003 23:29:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 67946 invoked from network); 24 Jan 2003 23:29:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m9.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 24 Jan 2003 23:29:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail2.reutershealth.com) (65.246.141.151) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Jan 2003 23:29:32 -0000 Received: from skunk.reutershealth.com ([10.65.117.21]) by mail2.reutershealth.com (Pro-8.9.3/Pro-8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA25912 for ; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 18:42:27 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200301242342.SAA25912@mail2.reutershealth.com> Received: by skunk.reutershealth.com (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Fri, 24 Jan 2003 18:29:30 -0500 To: lojban@yahoogroups.com (Lojban List) In-Reply-To: <200301241746.42842.phma@webjockey.net> from "Pierre Abbat" at Jan 24, 2003 05:46:42 PM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL6] From: John Cowan X-Yahoo-Profile: john_w_cowan MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@yahoogroups.com; contact lojban-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 18:29:30 -0500 (EST) Subject: [lojban] Re: An X is an X Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-archive-position: 3897 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jcowan@reutershealth.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list Pierre Abbat scripsit: > "an X is an X" (count noun) or "X is X" (mass noun) is an idiom; in Lojban > it's a tautology. How should the idiom be rendered in Lojban? And when you've solved that problem, tackle this one: In old Australia/Wales/Montana, men were men and sheep were nervous. -- Schlingt dreifach einen Kreis vom dies! || John Cowan Schliesst euer Aug vor heiliger Schau, || http://www.reutershealth.com Denn er genoss vom Honig-Tau, || http://www.ccil.org/~cowan Und trank die Milch vom Paradies. -- Coleridge (tr. Politzer) To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/