From phma@ixazon.dynip.com Thu Jan 30 04:10:21 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Thu, 30 Jan 2003 04:10:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from 208-150-110-21-adsl.precisionet.net ([208.150.110.21] helo=blackcat.ixazon.lan) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 18eDWK-0000T1-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 04:10:16 -0800 Received: by blackcat.ixazon.lan (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 9C0CB8834; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 12:09:48 +0000 (UTC) From: Pierre Abbat Organization: dis To: lojban-list Subject: [lojban] Re: loi preti be fi lo nincli zo'u tu'e Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 07:09:48 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.5 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200301300709.48223.phma@webjockey.net> X-archive-position: 3955 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: phma@webjockey.net Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list On Thursday 30 January 2003 06:57, And Rosta wrote: > Pierre: > #> The rule applied in Academic Lojban is that DA is bound in the localmost > #> bridi it occurs in, and the binding lasts for as long as the bridi does. > #> For DA [to] stay bound across sentence boundaries requires use of tu'e. > # > #The bridi, or the jufra? > > The binding lasts as long as the (logical) bridi does. Implicitly or > explicitly connected jufra jointly form a logical bridi. I thought that a jufra is composed of 0 or more bridi. For example: {.uiro'o} is one jufra with zero bridi. (le mlatu cu bunra} is one jufra with one bridi. {ro da se risna .ijo da se livga} is one jufra with two bridi. {mi klama le zarci .i mi rinsa le pendo} is two jufra with two bridi. Whether two bridi connected by {.iku'i} or {.ibo} are separate jufra is iffy. phma