From sentto-44114-18754-1046652177-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Sun Mar 02 16:43:35 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sun, 02 Mar 2003 16:43:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from n26.grp.scd.yahoo.com ([66.218.66.82]) by digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 18pe3F-0001XI-01 for lojban-in@lojban.org; Sun, 02 Mar 2003 16:43:29 -0800 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-44114-18754-1046652177-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.67.198] by n26.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Mar 2003 00:42:57 -0000 X-Sender: ragnarok@pobox.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_4); 3 Mar 2003 00:42:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 96237 invoked from network); 3 Mar 2003 00:27:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 3 Mar 2003 00:27:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp.intrex.net) (209.42.192.250) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Mar 2003 00:27:48 -0000 Received: from craig [209.42.200.67] by smtp.intrex.net (SMTPD32-7.13) id A18289A90050; Sun, 02 Mar 2003 19:27:46 -0500 To: "Lojban@Yahoogroups. Com" Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal X-Declude-Sender: ragnarok@pobox.com [209.42.200.67] From: "Craig" X-Yahoo-Profile: kreig_daniyl MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@yahoogroups.com; contact lojban-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2003 19:28:03 -0500 Subject: [lojban] Re: The Any thread Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252 X-archive-position: 4272 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: ragnarok@pobox.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list >On xod & Craig's side, it is certainly true that "mi nitcu lo >mikce" is true if, for any doctor, I need them, and "mi viska >lo mlatu" is true if, for any cat, I see it. You misunderstand. I claim that "I need a (Any) doctor" is expressed by "mi lo mikce nitcu" and that my need will be met whatever doctor you bring me, within reason. "Within reason" is qualified by my ternitcu; the fact that that is zo'e means that if it matters, it's probably obvious. >1. I need there to be a lojban dictionary >whereas "mi nitcu lo lojbo valsi cukta" means >2. There is a lojban dictionary that I need (there to be) Not at all. I say "mi nitcu lo lojbo valsi cukta" expresses a need that will be met if "mi ponsi lo lojbo valsi cukta" becomes true, regardless of WHAT lojbo valsi cukta I acquire. To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/