From phma@ixazon.dynip.com Mon Mar 03 03:20:05 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Mon, 03 Mar 2003 03:20:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from p3ee2b590.dip.t-dialin.net ([62.226.181.144] helo=blackcat.ixazon.lan) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18pnyy-0000FT-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Mon, 03 Mar 2003 03:19:44 -0800 Received: by blackcat.ixazon.lan (Postfix, from userid 1001) id DE8562482; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 12:19:41 +0100 (MET) From: Pierre Abbat Organization: dis To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: gismu etemology Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 12:19:41 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.5 References: <20030302155703.GA8303@allusion.net> <3E622AFF.2000207@bilkent.edu.tr> In-Reply-To: <3E622AFF.2000207@bilkent.edu.tr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; boundary="Boundary-00=_NpzY+7sHFSv77jy" Message-Id: <200303031219.41422.phma@webjockey.net> X-archive-position: 4283 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: phma@webjockey.net Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list --Boundary-00=_NpzY+7sHFSv77jy Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On Sunday 02 March 2003 17:02, robin wrote: > Jordan DeLong wrote: > > Is there data for this stuff somewhere? > > http://www.lojban.org/publications/etymology.html Given the .voc files mentioned on that page, you can run this script and it'll tell you (for most gismu - it fails on "vensa") the words in the six languages. "vensa" is obviously from Russian "vesna", but what are the other words that caused the consonants to be switched? phma -- .i toljundi do .ibabo mi'afra tu'a do .ibabo damba do .ibabo do jinga .icu'u la ma'atman. --Boundary-00=_NpzY+7sHFSv77jy Content-Type: application/x-shellscript; name="voc" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="voc" #!/bin/sh LINE=`grep -n $1 lojban.voc|cut -f 1 -d :` if [ x$LINE == x ] then echo No such word exit fi head -$LINE arabic.voc |tail -1 head -$LINE english.voc |tail -1 head -$LINE spanish.voc |tail -1 head -$LINE chinese.voc |tail -1 head -$LINE hindi.voc |tail -1 head -$LINE russian.voc |tail -1 --Boundary-00=_NpzY+7sHFSv77jy--