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From: Jordan DeLong <fracture@allusion.net>
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Subject: [lojban] Re: The Any thread
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On Mon, Mar 03, 2003 at 06:50:58PM -0500, Craig wrote:
> >> >{lo} is not defined in traditional Lojban the way you want it.
> >>
> >> Yes it is.
>=20
> >No it isn't.  mi nitcu lo mikce =3D=3D Ex(Mx & Nmx).  There is no
> >question that this is the definition given in CLL.  Traditional
> >lojban =3D=3D CLL.
>=20
> First, I wish to thank Jordan for trying to remove us from the world of
> unbacked assertions.

Heh.

> Second, I wish to note that in each case, the 'unbacked' assertion was a
> conclusion to what was above it. It is silly to answer a conclusion to a
> message without responding to its content.

Heh.

> Third, the fact that anyone disagrees about the meaning of {mi nitcu lo
> mikce} means that there *is* a question.

Um.  The book says what it says.  I don't feel like finding quotes.
Just go read chapter 16.

> So let's avoid the unbacked
> assertions. Now, I know you're about to make an argumentum ad populum here
> (or at least most people would) and claim that there are only two of us. =
To

Straw man.

[...]
> Fourth, traditional Lojban =3D=3D Baseline. This includes CLL, but is by =
no
> means limited to it.

Of course, what I had intended was that anything in CLL is obviously
standard or "traditional" lojban.  So this point is off topic.

--=20
Jordan DeLong - fracture@allusion.net
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                                     sei la mark. tuen. cusku

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