From cowan@mercury.ccil.org Wed Mar 12 20:36:22 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Wed, 12 Mar 2003 20:36:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from mercury.ccil.org ([192.190.237.100] ident=mail) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18tKRs-00023J-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 20:36:08 -0800 Received: from cowan by mercury.ccil.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18tKRq-0002qL-00; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 23:36:06 -0500 Subject: [lojban] Re: Suggestions Sought: NORALUJV and jbovlaste In-Reply-To: <20030313003009.GO25165@digitalkingdom.org> from Robin Lee Powell at "Mar 12, 2003 04:30:10 pm" To: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 23:36:06 -0500 (EST) CC: lojban-list@lojban.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL66 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: From: John Cowan X-archive-position: 4453 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: cowan@mercury.ccil.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list Robin Lee Powell scripsit: > NORALUJV cannot usefully be loaded into jbovlaste, because the > definition format in no way resembles the lojbanic standard. For > example: > > fazyta'a annoy+talk > fanza+tavla: chatter: x1 = tavla1 (talk) = fanza 1 (pest), x2 = tavla2 > (talked to), x3 = tavla3 (talk subject), x4 = tavla4 (talk language), x5 = > fanza2 (annoyed) Noralujv was originally in the standard you are talking about, but I ran it through a Perl program (or maybe an awk program) to expand the place structure names like "t1" to "tavla1". I am stressed for time right now, but it shouldn't be that hard to write some code to do the reverse transformation. The gismu names are right there in the third field for you, so you can figure out the minimum abbrevs in advance, remembering that "x" is never a valid abbreviation of any gismu. -- John Cowan http://www.ccil.org/~cowan cowan@ccil.org To say that Bilbo's breath was taken away is no description at all. There are no words left to express his staggerment, since Men changed the language that they learned of elves in the days when all the world was wonderful. --_The Hobbit_