From sentto-44114-19104-1048554732-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Mon Mar 24 17:12:48 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Mon, 24 Mar 2003 17:12:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from n38.grp.scd.yahoo.com ([66.218.66.106]) by digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 18xczb-0006GW-01 for lojban-in@lojban.org; Mon, 24 Mar 2003 17:12:43 -0800 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-44114-19104-1048554732-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.67.192] by n38.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Mar 2003 01:12:12 -0000 X-Sender: cowan@mercury.ccil.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_6_5); 25 Mar 2003 01:12:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 55746 invoked from network); 25 Mar 2003 01:12:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 25 Mar 2003 01:12:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mercury.ccil.org) (192.190.237.100) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 25 Mar 2003 01:12:11 -0000 Received: from cowan by mercury.ccil.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18xcz5-0007CN-00 for ; Mon, 24 Mar 2003 20:12:11 -0500 In-Reply-To: from Jorge Llambias at "Mar 24, 2003 11:23:46 pm" To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL66 (25)] Message-Id: X-eGroups-From: John Cowan From: John Cowan X-Yahoo-Profile: johnwcowan MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@yahoogroups.com; contact lojban-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 20:12:11 -0500 (EST) Subject: [lojban] Re: ancient clicks Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-archive-position: 4604 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: cowan@ccil.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list Jorge Llambias scripsit: > But that would mean they are no longer allophones. The 'n' > in {tcomolunmas} should be pronounced just like the 'n' in > {lunma} would be pronounced. No, I don't agree. [n] and [N] are in free variation, not in systematic variation, but that doesn't make them any the less allophones. -- John Cowan http://www.ccil.org/~cowan cowan@ccil.org To say that Bilbo's breath was taken away is no description at all. There are no words left to express his staggerment, since Men changed the language that they learned of elves in the days when all the world was wonderful. --_The Hobbit_ ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Your own Online Store Selling our Overstock. http://us.click.yahoo.com/rZll0B/4ftFAA/46VHAA/GSaulB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/