From sentto-44114-19109-1048559916-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Mon Mar 24 18:39:13 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Mon, 24 Mar 2003 18:39:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from n17.grp.scd.yahoo.com ([66.218.66.72]) by digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 18xeLD-0006cW-01 for lojban-in@lojban.org; Mon, 24 Mar 2003 18:39:07 -0800 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-44114-19109-1048559916-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.67.199] by n17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Mar 2003 02:38:37 -0000 X-Sender: jjllambias@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_6_5); 25 Mar 2003 02:38:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 63690 invoked from network); 25 Mar 2003 02:38:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 25 Mar 2003 02:38:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (216.33.241.112) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 25 Mar 2003 02:38:36 -0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 24 Mar 2003 18:38:35 -0800 Received: from 200.69.2.52 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 25 Mar 2003 02:38:35 GMT X-Originating-Email: [jjllambias@hotmail.com] To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Bcc: Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Mar 2003 02:38:35.0993 (UTC) FILETIME=[A26DCC90:01C2F277] From: "Jorge Llambias" X-Originating-IP: [200.69.2.52] X-Yahoo-Profile: jjllambias2000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@yahoogroups.com; contact lojban-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 02:38:35 +0000 Subject: [lojban] Re: ancient clicks Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-archive-position: 4607 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@hotmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list la djan cusku di'e >Jorge Llambias scripsit: > > > But that would mean they are no longer allophones. The 'n' > > in {tcomolunmas} should be pronounced just like the 'n' in > > {lunma} would be pronounced. > >No, I don't agree. [n] and [N] are in free variation, not in systematic >variation, but that doesn't make them any the less allophones. If {tcomoluNmas} is marked as having a different pronunciation than {tcomolunmas}, I don't see how they can still be called allophones. mu'o mi'e xorxes _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Your own Online Store Selling our Overstock. http://us.click.yahoo.com/rZll0B/4ftFAA/46VHAA/GSaulB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/