From sentto-44114-19175-1048875675-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Fri Mar 28 10:22:11 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Fri, 28 Mar 2003 10:22:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from n11.grp.scd.yahoo.com ([66.218.66.66]) by digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 18yyUD-0007YP-00 for lojban-in@lojban.org; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 10:21:53 -0800 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-44114-19175-1048875675-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.67.201] by n11.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Mar 2003 18:21:18 -0000 X-Sender: b.gohla@gmx.de X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_6_5); 28 Mar 2003 18:21:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 37529 invoked from network); 28 Mar 2003 18:19:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m9.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 28 Mar 2003 18:19:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.gmx.net) (213.165.65.60) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Mar 2003 18:19:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 31908 invoked by uid 65534); 28 Mar 2003 18:19:44 -0000 Received: from B7fa4.pppool.de (HELO linux) (213.7.127.164) by mail.gmx.net (mp008-rz3) with SMTP; 28 Mar 2003 19:19:44 +0100 To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] References: In-Reply-To: X-Accept-Language: de, en, la, art-lojban Message-Id: <03032819313901.05904@linux> From: =?utf-8?q?Bj=C3=B6rn=20Gohla?= X-Yahoo-Profile: badbirdde MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@yahoogroups.com; contact lojban-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 19:31:39 +0100 Subject: [lojban] Re: Alice proofreading Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis X-archive-position: 4673 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: b.gohla@gmx.de Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2003-03-28 03:57, Craig wrote: > >> Prunus cerasus. There's also P. avium but pe'i more people would > >> recognize "cerasus" as that's where the word "cherries" comes > >> from. > > > >OK. How is that pronounced in Latin, because I bet it's not ceraso. > > Classical Latin would have "kErasus" if it is a short a and "kerAsus" if it > is a long a. Seeing as the short A results in Spanish "*cierzo" and the my dictionary says it is a short 'a' by nature, and there is no positional length either, right?. > long a in "cerezo", meaning "cherry tree", I'm guessing it's like lojban > "kerasus". That said, many people reading latin use the (worng) tc for c > before i,e. Reconstructive work proves that this cannot have been the > pronunciation, at least before Sardinian split off from other Western > Romance languages. - -- Article 5 from the Universal Declaration of Human Rights No one shall be subjected to torture or to cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment. Björn Gohla (Wissenschaftler, Weltbürger) ; key id: 834F4976; key fingerprint: 9FF4 FEDA CCDF DA0E 14D5 8129 6C14 3C39 834F 4976; -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE+hJULbBQ8OYNPSXYRAjGxAJ9NvDAR7/PQeXDWwa2HW1tVCT9itwCcCHMg +oBnvOq8VNJP7H+xiIbLONU= =kdLO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Your own Online Store Selling our Overstock. http://us.click.yahoo.com/rZll0B/4ftFAA/46VHAA/GSaulB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/