From sentto-44114-19296-1050490094-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Wed Apr 16 03:48:59 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Wed, 16 Apr 2003 03:48:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from n1.grp.scd.yahoo.com ([66.218.66.64]) by digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 195kTE-0001NV-01 for lojban-in@lojban.org; Wed, 16 Apr 2003 03:48:52 -0700 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-44114-19296-1050490094-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.67.197] by n1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Apr 2003 10:48:15 -0000 X-Sender: phma@ixazon.dynip.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_6_5); 16 Apr 2003 10:48:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 60077 invoked from network); 16 Apr 2003 10:48:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 16 Apr 2003 10:48:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO blackcat.ixazon.lan) (208.150.110.21) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Apr 2003 10:48:14 -0000 Received: by blackcat.ixazon.lan (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 88FFB2E27; Wed, 16 Apr 2003 10:48:17 +0000 (UTC) Organization: dis To: lojban@yahoogroups.com User-Agent: KMail/1.5 References: In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <200304160648.16769.phma@webjockey.net> From: Pierre Abbat MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@yahoogroups.com; contact lojban-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 06:48:16 -0400 Subject: [lojban] Re: mi'e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-archive-position: 4794 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: phma@webjockey.net Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list On Wednesday 16 April 2003 05:23, sshiskom wrote: > > .i le segugdrkoria cu kakne nu facki le du'u kau dzena kau > > ri'a la'e di'u > > It was parsed by jbofi'e, but with wrong semantics. Of course, > {nu facki} needs {le} in front of it! And it seems {segugdrkoria} > is not recognized as I intended... Should I say {selgugdrkoria}, > using lujvo {selgugde}? A type-3 fu'ivla can't be made with two rafsi. This has been tried and found unworkable. (I'm not sure what the counterexample was, but the attempt I remember having been tried was *{selgernrotfaila}.) Some fu'ivla can workably be given long rafsi and made into lujvo. There are two proposals for this: one is in the Book, and the other (by me) is on the wiki. But all rafsi fu'ivla end in a single vowel, which {gugdrkoria} doesn't. I suggest that {gugdrkoria} and other type-3 fu'ivla denoting countries have the same place structure as {gugde}. (Type-4 fu'ivla such as {magjaro} have the same place structure as {fraso}.) Then you can say {se gugdrkoria} and mean what you mean. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Get a FREE REFINANCE QUOTE - click here! http://us.click.yahoo.com/2CXtTB/ca0FAA/i5gGAA/GSaulB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/