From ragnarok@pobox.com Fri Apr 18 15:29:43 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Fri, 18 Apr 2003 15:29:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.intrex.net ([209.42.192.250]) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 196eMT-0001xB-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Fri, 18 Apr 2003 15:29:37 -0700 Received: from craig [209.42.200.60] by smtp.intrex.net (SMTPD32-7.13) id AC364B70278; Fri, 18 Apr 2003 18:29:10 -0400 From: "Craig" To: Subject: [lojban] Re: Y+NAI is not grammatical; jbofi'e is not always right (was Re: ynai) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2003 18:29:07 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <20030418223134.GA6392@allusion.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal X-Declude-Sender: ragnarok@pobox.com [209.42.200.60] X-archive-position: 4843 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: ragnarok@pobox.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list >Looking at the BNF, it doesn't look like it should be grammatical: >indicator: (UI | CAI) [NAI] | Y | DAhO | FUhO >and the informal rules >word: [BAhE] any-word [indicators] >any-word : "any single word (no compound cmavo)" >are the relevant parts. The Y rule doesn't support NAI, so I think >the author of jbofi'e probably cheated and implemented Y as a UI >for easiness. As I say, I do not read BNF. I couldn't find mention of Y+NAI in the Book, so when I realized that y was in its own cmavo (I had mislearned it as a UI) I checked jbofi'e to see whether it could take NAI. It could, but I found no usage of that and no mention in the Book, so it is not mentioned in the descriptive record I posted to the BPFK forum.