From sentto-44114-19409-1051117602-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Wed Apr 23 10:07:22 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Wed, 23 Apr 2003 10:07:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from n33.grp.scd.yahoo.com ([66.218.66.101]) by digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 198NiG-0006hQ-01 for lojban-in@lojban.org; Wed, 23 Apr 2003 10:07:16 -0700 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-44114-19409-1051117602-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.67.196] by n33.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Apr 2003 17:06:43 -0000 X-Sender: cowan@mercury.ccil.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_6_5); 23 Apr 2003 17:06:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 48549 invoked from network); 23 Apr 2003 17:06:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 23 Apr 2003 17:06:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mercury.ccil.org) (192.190.237.100) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 Apr 2003 17:06:34 -0000 Received: from cowan by mercury.ccil.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 198Nhb-0004wC-00 for ; Wed, 23 Apr 2003 13:06:35 -0400 To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: <20030423170634.GG14253@ccil.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i X-eGroups-From: John Cowan From: John Cowan X-Yahoo-Profile: johnwcowan MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@yahoogroups.com; contact lojban-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 13:06:34 -0400 Subject: [lojban] [cowan: Re: Defining lujvo] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-archive-position: 4908 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: cowan@ccil.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list Jim Carter scripsit: > Look for "What Definitions Mean". To summarize: a predicate "is" a > relation between its arguments, and is defined as a set (or class, if > infinite) of thus-related sets of arguments. The textual exigesis is no > more than a learning aid. > > Beware, the discussion is for -gua!spi, and a number of points differ from > official Loglan/Lojban. This definitely won't work for Loglan/Lojban. For example, in Lojban it is possible to create two lujvo with the place structures "x1 has a heart" and "x1 has a kidney", and these are distinct predicates. In Gua\spi, however, they are the same predicate. -- Income tax, if I may be pardoned for saying so, John Cowan is a tax on income. --Lord Macnaghten (1901) jcowan@reutershealth.com ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Get A Free Psychic Reading! Your Online Answer To Life's Important Questions. http://us.click.yahoo.com/Z_CBYA/vB5FAA/AG3JAA/GSaulB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/