From jjllambias2000@yahoo.com.ar Mon Apr 28 14:07:02 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Mon, 28 Apr 2003 14:07:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from web20502.mail.yahoo.com ([216.136.226.137]) by digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 19AFpm-0002XI-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Mon, 28 Apr 2003 14:06:46 -0700 Message-ID: <20030428210644.20605.qmail@web20502.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [200.49.74.2] by web20502.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 28 Apr 2003 14:06:44 PDT Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 14:06:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Jorge "Llambías" Subject: [lojban] Re: BPFK phpbb To: lojban-list@lojban.org In-Reply-To: <20030428203758.GA99775@allusion.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-archive-position: 4989 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias2000@yahoo.com.ar Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list la djorden cusku di'e > Or how about strange > things like "leka klama keinai cu xamgu". I would say it's equivalent to {na'e bo le ka klama cu xamgu}. > Anyway, I dunno why the text rule allows a nai at the start, but > you're ignoring camgusmis' point by focusing on that---namely that > if nai is in UI, it can be used *anywhere*, and thus it should be > a word which makes sense to be used anywhere (like "ui"). But it _is_ a word that makes sense used anywhere: it changes the previous word into an opposite. Isn't that how it works now, except now it only works with a selected set of previous words? > Other than the problem with making too many sentences legal, I would > complain that it complicates the parse tree of things like {mi > na.enai do klama}. The first "na" is handled at the same level as > the .e and as part of the structure there. But the second "nai" > (if in UI) is handled at a lower level of the parser (where it > allows UIs after any word). Surely that's transparent to human users. In any case, I believe the official position is that the parse tree is not always related to the semantics. That was mentioned on jboske sometime during the outburst. mu'o mi'e xorxes __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com