From sentto-44114-19683-1052274581-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Tue May 06 19:30:21 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Tue, 06 May 2003 19:30:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from n30.grp.scd.yahoo.com ([66.218.66.87]) by digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 19DEhA-00083Z-01 for lojban-in@lojban.org; Tue, 06 May 2003 19:30:12 -0700 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-44114-19683-1052274581-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.66.95] by n30.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 May 2003 02:29:41 -0000 X-Sender: jjllambias2000@yahoo.com.ar X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_6_6); 7 May 2003 02:29:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 98903 invoked from network); 7 May 2003 02:29:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m7.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 7 May 2003 02:29:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web20513.mail.yahoo.com) (216.136.174.44) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 May 2003 02:29:40 -0000 Message-ID: <20030507022940.89510.qmail@web20513.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [200.69.2.52] by web20513.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 06 May 2003 19:29:40 PDT To: lojban@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: From: Jorge "Llambías" X-Yahoo-Profile: jjllambias2000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@yahoogroups.com; contact lojban-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk Date: Tue, 6 May 2003 19:29:40 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [lojban] Re: 1st Person Imperative Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-archive-position: 5181 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias2000@yahoo.com.ar Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list la kreig cusku di'e > I object because the meaining is not the "please do this" conveyed by an > imperative in natlangs but a statement that it is (or, in this case, ca'a > would not be default, so it could be) the case, coupled with a feeling of > pleading. Consider: e'u mi'o ca'a citka To me this is a suggestion that we actually eat. To you it is a statement that we are actually eating (or will actually eat) coupled with a feeling of suggestion, (which I'm not sure how it would feel). This will have to be clarified by the BPFK, I suppose. mu'o mi'e xorxes __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Rent DVDs Online - Over 14,500 titles. No Late Fees & Free Shipping. Try Netflix for FREE! http://us.click.yahoo.com/YoVfrB/XP.FAA/uetFAA/GSaulB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/