From fracture@cs6668125-184.austin.rr.com Sun May 11 12:28:23 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sun, 11 May 2003 12:28:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cs6668125-184.austin.rr.com ([66.68.125.184] ident=root) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19EwUb-0001KK-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sun, 11 May 2003 12:28:17 -0700 Received: from cs6668125-184.austin.rr.com (asdf@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cs6668125-184.austin.rr.com (8.12.8p1/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h4BJcn67055666 for ; Sun, 11 May 2003 14:38:50 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from fracture@cs6668125-184.austin.rr.com) Received: (from fracture@localhost) by cs6668125-184.austin.rr.com (8.12.8p1/8.12.8/Submit) id h4BJcnDa055665 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sun, 11 May 2003 14:38:49 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 11 May 2003 14:38:49 -0500 From: Jordan DeLong To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: zi, vi, ca, bu'u Message-ID: <20030511193849.GA55520@allusion.net> References: <3EBEA11C.5040703@epfl.ch> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="oyUTqETQ0mS9luUI" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3EBEA11C.5040703@epfl.ch> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-archive-position: 5214 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: fracture@allusion.net Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list --oyUTqETQ0mS9luUI Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, May 11, 2003 at 09:14:36PM +0200, Gregory Dyke wrote: [...] > On irc, I said: ma nuzba vi le norge (the example xorxes quotes on phpbb) >=20 > Is this incorrect or just not as accurate as it should be? What would be= =20 > a less "foreign" way of saying this? >=20 > ma nuzba ne'i le norge > ma nuzba bu'u le norge > ... [...] None of the above. Those are all malglico. When you say, in english, "What's new in Norway", the "in" does not have to do with spacial location (news doesn't have a location), and thus has nothing to do with {ne'i}, {bu'u}, or cmavo in VA. {ma nuzba sera'a le gugdrnorge} or {ma nuzba le gugdrnorge} or {ma nuzba fi le gugdrnorge}, depending on exactly how general or specific you want to be in your query for what particular type of news, are correct. --=20 Jordan DeLong - fracture@allusion.net lu zo'o loi censa bakni cu terzba le zaltapla poi xagrai li'u sei la mark. tuen. cusku --oyUTqETQ0mS9luUI Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+vqbJDrrilS51AZ8RAsgAAJ9a6HVeMq2YgyvQiQUDJufRnag6wQCfYlXr QicO7xLIQUjAAPMFNK2EJpY= =MTjp -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --oyUTqETQ0mS9luUI--