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From: Pierre Abbat <phma@webjockey.net>
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Subject: [lojban] Re: Alternative Orthography.  Yes, another one.
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On Thursday 15 May 2003 05:02, Philip Newton wrote:
> On 15 May 2003 at 17:20, Nick Nicholas wrote:
> > 'Nother vote for accents.
>
> What about diphthongs? (Especially since Lojban has both rising and
> falling diphthongs.)
>
> Accent both vowels? the stronger one? the first one?
>
> For example, a place near here is Eißendorf - AIsendorf. (with the
> falling diphthong 'ai'); would that turn into áisendorf or aísendorf or
> áísendorf?
>
> Assuming Dubois is diBUAS. (with the rising diphthong 'ua') - is that
> dibúás? dibúas? dibuás?
>
> (I'd prefer that if one vowel is marked, it be the stronger one [or
> whatever the term is], so áisendorf, dibuás.)

I agree. Which letter gets the accent can give some info on how the vowels are 
split, e.g. {kikúius} has to be {kikU,ius}, not {kikUI,us}. I don't recommend 
omitting the comma in such cases, as valfendi makes all vowels in a stressed 
syllable stressed (though the routine that does that is not applied to 
cmene).

> I suppose one could be silly and use circumflex for single vowels and
> acute-grave (which looks a little like a circumflex) for diphthongs...
> so mûstafas kemâl but áìsendorf and dibúàs.
>
> Or, since Unicode was mentioned, we could be really silly and use
> U+0303 COMBINING TILDE for a single vowel and U+0360 COMBINING DOUBLE
> TILDE (which goes over two letters) for diphthongs....

Definitely silly.

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