From xod@thestonecutters.net Fri May 16 11:39:33 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Fri, 16 May 2003 11:39:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [66.111.194.10] (helo=granite.thestonecutters.net) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19Gk6m-0003ju-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Fri, 16 May 2003 11:39:09 -0700 Received: from granite.thestonecutters.net (localhost.thestonecutters.net [127.0.0.1]) by granite.thestonecutters.net (8.12.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h4GIZJ3F059323 for ; Fri, 16 May 2003 14:35:19 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from xod@thestonecutters.net) Received: from localhost (xod@localhost) by granite.thestonecutters.net (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) with ESMTP id h4GIZJW1059320 for ; Fri, 16 May 2003 14:35:19 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from xod@thestonecutters.net) X-Authentication-Warning: granite.thestonecutters.net: xod owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 14:35:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Invent Yourself To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: Alternative Orthography. Yes, another one. In-Reply-To: <3EC52E5B.2010509@epfl.ch> Message-ID: <20030516143218.G52849-100000@granite.thestonecutters.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis X-archive-position: 5315 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: xod@thestonecutters.net Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list On Fri, 16 May 2003, Gregory Dyke wrote: > Robin wrote: > > > Martin Norbäck wrote: > > > >> fre 2003-05-16 klockan 10.28 skrev robin: > >> > >>> OK, let's kill this thread before the Lojban lists turns into the > >>> Great Window Manager Debate. And don't anyone dare start talking > >>> about vi and emacs! > >> > >> > >> > >> First, let me say that vim is the best editor. > >> > >> I'm beginning to wonder why there should be a way to indicate stress at > >> all. > >> > >> The only place where you currently can choose stress is cmene. Why > >> should you be able to do that? It's clear where a cmene ends anyway (it > >> ends with a consonant and a pause). > >> > >> In cmavo, you may stress however you like but the cmavo are still the > >> same words. In brivla you must have penultimate stress. Why not just > >> make it acceptable to stress a cmene in whatever way you like? > > > > > > Because people get touchy about their names. pi,ER. probably doesn't > > want to have people calling him pi,er. > > > > robin.tr > > > I don't expect my friend Lara would enjoy being called any of the > lojbanized name forms one could think up. Why be picky about stress? It makes more of an impact on longer names. In the US we say the name of the old pharaoh as tutankhAmen. When a friend of mine pronounced it tutAnkhamen he had to resort to a description before I understood. -- Neoconservatism in the realm of foreign policy is merely Trotskyism-turned-inside-out: a militant internationalism fueled by U.S. taxpayer dollars and backed up by the mightiest military the world has ever seen.