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From: Jorge "Llambías" <jjllambias2000@yahoo.com.ar>
Subject: [lojban] Re: du'u
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la ctefan cusku di'e

> I have a little problem with the place structure of "du'u". When do I have to
> use inversion? I don't really understand the difference between the x1 and
> the x2. 

x1 is a selsinxa, x2 is a sinxa. x2 is the words, x1 is what the 
words mean. For example:

  lu mi klama le zarci li'u se du'u do klama le zarci kei va'o 
  le nu do cusku vo'a

"mi klama le zarci" expresses that you go to the market when you 
say those words.

The only place I see {sedu'u} used is for the x2 of cusku, which
requires a text. 

> "du'u" seems to be used with verbs of thinking and "sedu'u" with verbs of
> speaking but is there really a difference in {cusku le sedu'u broda} and
> {cusku ledu'u broda}?

Well, {xusra} takes du'u, so: {xusra le du'u broda}, "assert that broda".

I'm not exactly sure what {cusku} entails. It is not merely uttering 
the words, as that would be {bacru}. But I don't know if from {ko'a 
cusku ko'e} one can conclude {ko'a xusra la'e ko'e}. Probably
not: For example, one can cusku questions, commands, and general 
attitude expressions which are not assertions.

mu'o mi'e xorxes


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