From tbovee@daypoems.net Tue May 27 06:54:01 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Tue, 27 May 2003 06:54:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mxsmta01.inithost.com ([209.235.30.103] helo=mxsmta01.dellhost.com) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19KetX-0006Id-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Tue, 27 May 2003 06:53:39 -0700 Received: from localhost ([68.98.176.101]) by mxsmta01.dellhost.com (InterMail vM.5.01.03.06 201-253-122-118-106-20010523) with ESMTP id <20030527135503.JLXL21312.mxsmta01.dellhost.com@localhost>; Tue, 27 May 2003 09:55:03 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (8.12.8/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h4RDscfi021285; Tue, 27 May 2003 09:54:38 -0400 Received: (from tbovee@localhost) by localhost (8.12.8/8.12.5/Submit) id h4RDscpN021280; Tue, 27 May 2003 09:54:38 -0400 From: tbovee@daypoems.net Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 09:53:38 -0400 To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: Beginner's take on the open/closed gismu debate (was: Re: emotions) Message-ID: <20030527135338.GB21194@localhost.nv.cox.net> References: <20030527044429.GA1170@panda.localdomain> <20030527091203.P27366-100000@granite.thestonecutters.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030527091203.P27366-100000@granite.thestonecutters.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-archive-position: 5448 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: tbovee@daypoems.net Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list Speaking as an absolute beginner, aren't lujvo by definition a nonce construction? And isn't that a good thing, because it allows the writer to express concepts unlimited by dictionaries and Academies of Language? Regards, Tim On Tue, May 27, 2003 at 09:14:15AM -0400, Invent Yourself wrote: > On Tue, 27 May 2003 tk1@despammed.com wrote: > > > Hello all, > > > > With regard to the current debate on whether gismu should be open or closed, > > I am not very sure what my position is, but I think a more pernicious > > problem is the tendency for some users to introduce nonce lujvo (e.g. in > > Chapter 2 of "Alice in Wonderland", I see the word "camri'ojvebla" (?!?)). > > > I assume this was created in intentional distinction from camblari'o? > > {ru'a ba'e gau le finti ra frica zo camblari'o le kamsmuni} > > > > -- > Neoconservatism in the realm of foreign policy is merely > Trotskyism-turned-inside-out: a militant internationalism fueled by U.S. > taxpayer dollars and backed up by the mightiest military the world has > ever seen. > > > > > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> > Get A Free Psychic Reading! Your Online Answer To Life's Important Questions. > http://us.click.yahoo.com/Lj3uPC/Me7FAA/CNxFAA/GSaulB/TM > ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> > > To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ >