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Subject: [lojban] Re: Beginner's take on the open/closed gismu debate (was: Re: emotions)
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Hello all,

[Jorge Llambías:]

> i ua le cmalu krokodilo
> cu zengau le ky rebla
> si'u le djacu pe la nilos
> le ka camri'ojvebla
[...]
> The reason for that lujvo has more to do with metric and rhyme than
> with any semantic preference. Alternative suggestions are welcome!

I am thinking of replacing the last two words with e.g. "solji skapi"...
which still leaves two syllables for random interjections.

> Yes, although notice that nakni has three places. Probably you'd have 
> to say something like:
> forall x (nanmu(x) <=> nakni(x,lo'e remna,????))

Oops. Let me retry that:

	forall x (nanmu(x) <=> (remna(x) /\ exists y exists z nakni(x, y, z)))

(Ah! I think I got it.) I tried reading up Chapter 16 of the Reference
Grammar to see how to put the above into Lojban, but apparently the material
is incomplete -- there is no mention on how to group subexpressions, what
scopes quantifiers have, etc.

> I wouldn't be surprised at all %^). I was
> told about this in 1986-7. That 

(Speaking of Chinese, recently I have proposed a Lojban orthography based on
CJK ideograms. Also I have changed my home page's colour due to popular
demand. :-/ )

Thanks,
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