From lojbab@lojban.org Wed May 28 22:15:48 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Wed, 28 May 2003 22:15:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lakemtao04.cox.net ([68.1.17.241]) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19LFlN-0004Qa-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Wed, 28 May 2003 22:15:41 -0700 Received: from bob.lojban.org ([68.100.92.1]) by lakemtao04.cox.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.05 201-253-122-122-105-20011231) with ESMTP id <20030529051512.ZXVX13930.lakemtao04.cox.net@bob.lojban.org> for ; Thu, 29 May 2003 01:15:12 -0400 Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.0.20030529010935.03f920c0@pop.east.cox.net> X-Sender: rlechevalier@pop.east.cox.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 01:14:11 -0400 To: From: Robert LeChevalier Subject: [lojban] Re: antiblotation (was: RE: taksi In-Reply-To: References: <5.2.0.9.0.20030528112312.04028710@pop.east.cox.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-archive-position: 5498 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: lojbab@lojban.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list At 01:40 AM 5/29/03 +0100, And Rosta wrote: >Lojbab: > > Slight caveat here: remember that Lojban predicates are "tenseless" > >Jimc, who restated in improved form what I said, makes a similar >point. However, asking "Is this a taxi/taksi" is no different from >asking "Are you a baby?", "Are you a university student?". Do >answer that, you have to add tense, yielding, say: "Is this a >taxi now?", "Are you a baby now?" Clearly you aren't a baby now; >you're an ex-baby. But is a taxicab sans passenger a taksi now, or >only an ex-taxi? So really I think my original point stands. Nora likes to treat all Lojban predicates as being verblike. Thus your question is better expressed: Is a taxicab sans passenger "taxicabbing" now, and I don't think that it is. Most likely, it is "once and future taxicabbing" %^) For your later question: you don't hail a taxi, you request the state of taxi-passengering. lojbab -- lojbab lojbab@lojban.org Bob LeChevalier, President, The Logical Language Group, Inc. 2904 Beau Lane, Fairfax VA 22031-1303 USA 703-385-0273 Artificial language Loglan/Lojban: http://www.lojban.org