From sentto-44114-20009-1054225176-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Thu May 29 09:26:26 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Thu, 29 May 2003 09:26:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from n31.grp.scd.yahoo.com ([66.218.66.99]) by digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 19LQEH-0007X3-00 for lojban-in@lojban.org; Thu, 29 May 2003 09:26:13 -0700 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-44114-20009-1054225176-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.67.193] by n31.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 May 2003 16:19:37 -0000 X-Sender: tk1@despammed.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 37973 invoked from network); 29 May 2003 16:09:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m11.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 29 May 2003 16:09:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) (203.125.34.145) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 May 2003 16:09:52 -0000 Received: by localhost (Postfix, from userid 501) id 30F6822882; Fri, 30 May 2003 00:13:14 +0800 (SGT) To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: <20030529161314.GC1204@panda.localdomain> References: <1054200714.311.79293.m12@yahoogroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1054200714.311.79293.m12@yahoogroups.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i From: tk1@despammed.com X-Yahoo-Profile: c1tk MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@yahoogroups.com; contact lojban-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 00:13:14 +0800 Subject: [lojban] Re: antiblotation (was: RE: taksi) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-archive-position: 5506 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: tk1@despammed.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list [Robert LeChevalier:] > Nora likes to treat all Lojban predicates as being verblike. Thus your > question is better expressed: Is a taxicab sans passenger "taxicabbing" > now, and I don't think that it is. Most likely, it is "once and future > taxicabbing" %^) I looked up my NLP textbook (Jurafsky & Martin, "Speech and Language Processing") to see how the ancients tackled this problem. Reportedly, the solution was simply to avoid making too many role commitments, instead tagging on roles via extra predicates as and when needed. Personally, I have always seen predicates as types of assertions: a predicate combined with arguments says something about a particular moment of the world, frozen Matrix-style. Perhaps this is because I have always been interested in true/false issues... Thanks, -- GPG:f75949318a026c5707ff188b438cca87faf73a82 http://angelfire.com/folk/sm0p/ GCS/MU d- s: a- C++() UL P++(+++) L++(+++) E- W++ N(+) o K? w--- O? M? V? PS(+) PE Y+ PGP+ t? 5? X- R- tv-() b+ DI(+) D+ G e++ h-- !r>+++ !y ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Get A Free Psychic Reading! Your Online Answer To Life's Important Questions. http://us.click.yahoo.com/Lj3uPC/Me7FAA/CNxFAA/GSaulB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/