From fracture@cs6668125-184.austin.rr.com Sat May 31 11:20:59 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sat, 31 May 2003 11:20:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cs24349-133.austin.rr.com ([24.243.49.133] helo=cs6668125-184.austin.rr.com ident=root) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19MAyJ-0006mG-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sat, 31 May 2003 11:20:51 -0700 Received: from cs6668125-184.austin.rr.com (asdf@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cs6668125-184.austin.rr.com (8.12.8p1/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h4VIXB67065184 for ; Sat, 31 May 2003 13:33:12 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from fracture@cs6668125-184.austin.rr.com) Received: (from fracture@localhost) by cs6668125-184.austin.rr.com (8.12.8p1/8.12.8/Submit) id h4VIXBT2065183 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sat, 31 May 2003 13:33:11 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 31 May 2003 13:33:11 -0500 From: Jordan DeLong To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: ISO 639-2 request Message-ID: <20030531183311.GA65001@allusion.net> References: <20030531182023.GA64562@allusion.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Q68bSM7Ycu6FN28Q" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-archive-position: 5538 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: fracture@allusion.net Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list --Q68bSM7Ycu6FN28Q Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, May 31, 2003 at 02:12:50PM -0400, Craig wrote: [...] > >> You didn't find Nick to be fluent when he was at LogFest? > >> > >> My count on fluency is 2. Nick, and Goran Topic (by Nick's report). I > >> suspect that Jorge would qualify as well. >=20 > >If you're going by that Nick-and-Goran conversation from 1995, I > >don't think that was anywhere *close* to fluency. >=20 > I have yet to see a tape or transcript of that, despite repeated promises > from Nick. There was a brief mp3 a while back. I don't know if it was the whole conversation. But there was english and people asking what gismu mean, and it didn't seem like Goran understood very much of what Nick said. > >Either way, though, 30 is just plain bogus. However, I'd think 30 > >is probably a pretty accurate count of the numer of people who are > >interested in the language (for a definition of "interest" that > >doesn't include people who've just heard of the language and lurk > >on the mailing list). >=20 > You don't think the number of badyxu'e purchases shows it's at least over > thirty? badyxu'e, eh? That's a new one... There's a big difference between buying a book and taking an interest in the language. (For example, I don't own a copy of the book). Go by this: how many people do you regularly speak in lojban with? For me it's about 5 of the people on IRC (though I've been hanging out there a lot less regularly lately). How many do you regularly speak *about* lojban with? For me it's the probably 20-30 regular posters on this mailing list. --=20 Jordan DeLong - fracture@allusion.net lu zo'o loi censa bakni cu terzba le zaltapla poi xagrai li'u sei la mark. tuen. cusku --Q68bSM7Ycu6FN28Q Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+2PVnDrrilS51AZ8RAnwaAKCDb2Jbk1dzQLJGcizWBp4y3KIb4ACgy13V ziCzvDJD8tiln8Ewjpvoc18= =+47z -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Q68bSM7Ycu6FN28Q--