From sentto-44114-20075-1054603541-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Mon Jun 02 18:26:20 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Mon, 02 Jun 2003 18:26:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from n36.grp.scd.yahoo.com ([66.218.66.104]) by digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 19N0Z2-0003It-01 for lojban-in@lojban.org; Mon, 02 Jun 2003 18:26:12 -0700 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-44114-20075-1054603541-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.66.96] by n36.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Jun 2003 01:25:41 -0000 X-Sender: a.rosta@lycos.co.uk X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 15810 invoked from network); 3 Jun 2003 01:25:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m13.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 3 Jun 2003 01:25:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lmsmtp03.st1.spray.net) (212.78.202.113) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Jun 2003 01:25:40 -0000 Received: from oemcomputer (host213-121-66-241.surfport24.v21.co.uk [213.121.66.241]) by lmsmtp03.st1.spray.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76ECA3CF06 for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 03:25:38 +0200 (MEST) To: Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 In-Reply-To: <200306022000.16883.phma@webjockey.net> From: "And Rosta" X-Yahoo-Profile: andjamin MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@yahoogroups.com; contact lojban-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 02:25:37 +0100 Subject: [lojban] Re: I saw three kinds of dogs Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-archive-position: 5572 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: a.rosta@lycos.co.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list Pierre: > How do you say that in colloquial Lojban? {ci da zo'u mi viska lo > gerku be da} > is formal, and {mi viska lo gerku be ci da} is wrong because a dog doesn't > belong to three breeds at once Heaven forfend that we should perpetuate the notion that the former is not colloquial, since overt prenexes are often unavoidable, except by not saying what one really means. Seriously, zo'u is *the* way. The Lojban design provides a way to say it, and zo'u is it. So the answer to your question is to make zo'u colloquial. Then it's easy to say in colloquial Lojban. --And. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Get A Free Psychic Reading! Your Online Answer To Life's Important Questions. http://us.click.yahoo.com/Lj3uPC/Me7FAA/ySSFAA/GSaulB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/