From jjllambias2000@yahoo.com.ar Tue Jun 03 13:02:17 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Tue, 03 Jun 2003 13:02:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from web41901.mail.yahoo.com ([66.218.93.152]) by digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 19NHyy-00058L-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Tue, 03 Jun 2003 13:02:08 -0700 Message-ID: <20030603144336.24048.qmail@web41901.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [200.49.74.2] by web41901.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 03 Jun 2003 07:43:36 PDT Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 07:43:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Jorge "Llambías" Subject: [lojban] Re: I saw three kinds of dogs To: lojban-list@lojban.org In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20030603094315.032a72f0@pop.east.cox.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-archive-position: 5583 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias2000@yahoo.com.ar Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list la lojbab cusku di'e > If we cannot assume that there were three things seen, how about the simple > > mi viska lu'e ci selgerku Hopefully you meant {lu'a}. But even if that means "member of at least one of the three" and not "member of each of the three", which would be my first guess, surely it does not guarantee that there is at least one member from each of the three? > I think the issue here is that the English itself is vague and we aren't > all that sure what we are tryingt o say. Once we know, saying it in Lojban > isn't necessarily difficult. I think Pierre made it quite clear what we are trying to say: {ci da zo'u mi viska lo gerku be da}. The question is if we can say it in the form {mi viska XXX}, i.e. if we can avoid having to front the quantifier. How do we say "I buy the same three newspapers every day"? I think maybe: {mi te vecnu ci le'e karni ca ro djedi}, {mi pu viska ci le'e gerku}. mu'o mi'e xorxes __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com