From arosta@uclan.ac.uk Wed Jun 04 08:28:25 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Wed, 04 Jun 2003 08:28:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from com1.uclan.ac.uk ([193.61.255.3]) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19NaBN-0001Lt-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Wed, 04 Jun 2003 08:28:09 -0700 Received: from gwise-gw1.uclan.ac.uk by com1.uclan.ac.uk with SMTP (Mailer); Wed, 4 Jun 2003 16:28:45 +0100 Received: from DI1-Message_Server by gwise-gw1.uclan.ac.uk with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 04 Jun 2003 16:30:01 +0100 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.5.2 Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2003 16:29:39 +0100 From: And Rosta To: lojban-list Subject: [lojban] Re: I saw three kinds of dogs Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Content-Disposition: inline X-archive-position: 5599 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: arosta@uclan.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list xod to xorxes: #> I don't really base it on any understanding of stereotypes. # #For most people, there can be any number of stereotypical dogs, and each #one they refer to as le'e gerku. For you, le'e gerku is the stereotype #itself, of which there can only be one. (Let's not get distracted with the #boundary cases.) The issue is not to do with understanding of stereotypes. It is to do with whether le'e has anything to do with stereotypes. If le'e is to lo'e as e-gardri are to their o-gadri counterparts, then le'e would not mean "the stereotypical". So there is a kind of inconsistency in CLL, in that le'e is semantically irregular. This is one of the things the BF will be looking at. --And.