From sentto-44114-20106-1054768824-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Wed Jun 04 16:21:20 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Wed, 04 Jun 2003 16:21:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from n11.grp.scd.yahoo.com ([66.218.66.66]) by digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 19NhZ7-0005Su-01 for lojban-in@lojban.org; Wed, 04 Jun 2003 16:21:09 -0700 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-44114-20106-1054768824-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.67.201] by n11.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Jun 2003 23:20:25 -0000 X-Sender: phma@ixazon.dynip.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 35762 invoked from network); 4 Jun 2003 23:20:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m9.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 4 Jun 2003 23:20:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO blackcat.ixazon.lan) (208.150.110.21) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 Jun 2003 23:20:24 -0000 Received: by blackcat.ixazon.lan (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 503A544A8; Wed, 4 Jun 2003 23:20:23 +0000 (UTC) Organization: dis To: lojban@yahoogroups.com User-Agent: KMail/1.5 References: <20030603203013.41849.qmail@web41903.mail.yahoo.com> <20030604105417.I53568-100000@granite.thestonecutters.net> <20030604172316.GE24636@skunk.reutershealth.com> In-Reply-To: <20030604172316.GE24636@skunk.reutershealth.com> Message-Id: <200306041920.22875.phma@webjockey.net> From: Pierre Abbat MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@yahoogroups.com; contact lojban-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2003 19:20:22 -0400 Subject: [lojban] Re: I saw three kinds of dogs Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-archive-position: 5604 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: phma@webjockey.net Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list On Wednesday 04 June 2003 13:23, John Cowan wrote: > Invent Yourself scripsit: > > For most people, there can be any number of stereotypical dogs, and each > > one they refer to as le'e gerku. For you, le'e gerku is the stereotype > > itself, of which there can only be one. (Let's not get distracted with > > the boundary cases.) > > I think there is only one le'e gerku for a given speaker at a given moment, > but it can vary across speakers and across time. I agree. It can refer to a stereotype, but really means "the typical dog of the dogs which I have in mind". For me, le'e xelso cu zgipli le'e relmeiskojgita, where le'e xelso is my stereotype of a Greek but le'e relmeiskojgita is not my stereotype of a relmeiskojgita but a baglamas or bouzouki. (I play the octave mandolin and the guitar, so my stereotypical relmeiskojgita is a mandolin or 12-string guitar.) For you, maybe le'e xelso cu tafstika. phma -- .i toljundi do .ibabo mi'afra tu'a do .ibabo damba do .ibabo do jinga .icu'u la ma'atman. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Get A Free Psychic Reading! Your Online Answer To Life's Important Questions. http://us.click.yahoo.com/Lj3uPC/Me7FAA/ySSFAA/GSaulB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/