From lojbab@lojban.org Wed Jul 02 17:49:37 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Wed, 02 Jul 2003 17:49:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lakemtao02.cox.net ([68.1.17.243]) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19XsHv-0004dF-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Wed, 02 Jul 2003 17:49:27 -0700 Received: from bob.lojban.org ([68.100.92.1]) by lakemtao02.cox.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.05 201-253-122-122-105-20011231) with ESMTP id <20030703004855.LGKU24359.lakemtao02.cox.net@bob.lojban.org>; Wed, 2 Jul 2003 20:48:55 -0400 Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.0.20030702203719.03eacb40@pop.east.cox.net> X-Sender: rlechevalier@pop.east.cox.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2003 20:40:38 -0400 To: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org From: Robert LeChevalier Subject: [lojban] Re: {Archivist} Intention of gunma? Cc: lojban-list@lojban.org In-Reply-To: <20030703001657.GL3306@digitalkingdom.org> References: <5.2.0.9.0.20030702195625.03e41ec0@pop.east.cox.net> <20030702213610.GH3306@digitalkingdom.org> <5.2.0.9.0.20030702195625.03e41ec0@pop.east.cox.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-archive-position: 5802 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: lojbab@lojban.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list At 05:16 PM 7/2/03 -0700, you wrote: >On Wed, Jul 02, 2003 at 08:01:07PM -0400, Robert LeChevalier wrote: > > At 02:36 PM 7/2/03 -0700, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > > >Was the intention of the definition of gunma to allow things > > >like: > > > > > > le cecmu cu gunma mi > > > > > >Or do we need to do things like > > > > > > le cecmu cu gunma lu'i mi ce da > > > > > >? > > > > > >In other words, is the x2 of gunma an individual or a set or > > >either? > > > > Intension was probably not that specifically thought out, but > > looking at the cmavo list, the definition of lu'a is more > > compatible than lu'i, since it specifically mentions components of > > a mass. > >That doesn't address the real question: is the x2 of gunma an >individual or a set or either? My intent was that it be an enumeration of individuals, but I can see possible logical flaws with that position. > > Of course there are probably a zillion arguments why this is > > wrong, and the question should be put to byfy, which won't give > > you an answer right away, but it will get on the list of issues to > > be addressed. > >If you're saying you don't know, then yeah, it better. I know what I intended. I don't know if my intention will stand byfy scrutiny. Jorge and And can probably rip it apart thoroughly enough. > > (one use of request tracker that still might be appropriate for > > byfy would be as a way for people to input issues like this that > > need to be decided. That way requestors don't need to decide > > which forum something belongs in - which should be decided by > > Nick. See if he agrees.) > >Hey, Nick. Comments? I think Nick is gone on holiday until whenever. lojbab -- lojbab lojbab@lojban.org Bob LeChevalier, President, The Logical Language Group, Inc. 2904 Beau Lane, Fairfax VA 22031-1303 USA 703-385-0273 Artificial language Loglan/Lojban: http://www.lojban.org