From rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Mon Sep 29 15:46:55 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Mon, 29 Sep 2003 15:46:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rlpowell by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.12) id 1A46mv-0000iW-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 15:46:41 -0700 Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 15:46:41 -0700 To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: Japanese has no subjunctive?? Message-ID: <20030929224641.GC1970@digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: lojban-list@lojban.org References: <20030929185343.GI17578@skunk.reutershealth.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i From: Robin Lee Powell X-archive-position: 6315 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list On Mon, Sep 29, 2003 at 04:27:39PM -0400, Craig wrote: > >> My wife reports that subjunctive grammar, e.g. if I had studied, > >> I would have done better on the test, are very difficult, since > >> none of this grammar is found in Japanese. > >> > >> If this is true, and I find it unlikely, how do the Japanese talk > >> about subjunctives? Or do they simply (and I find this > >> unimaginable) not do so? > > >Context is all. See the Chinese example in > >the Red Book, Chapter 13, examples 12.5 to 12.7 > >(http://www.lojban.org/publications/reference_grammar/chapter13.html#e12d5) > . > > Notice that English fails to use a present subjunctive construction in many [snip] BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA!! The reason you couldn't see the rest is that your MTA took that stray period, which just happened to be on a single line by itself, as the end of the mail. /me chortles. Dude, get a better MTA. Or MUA; can't be sure. -Robin -- Me: http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** I'm a *male* Robin. "but I'm not stupid and people are not stupid who think samely with me" -- from an actual, real, non-spam mail sent to webmaster@lojban.org http://www.lojban.org/ *** .i cimo'o prali .ui