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Subject: [lojban] Re: Bach-Peters sentences
From: Theodore Reed <rizen@surreality.us>
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On Sat, 2003-10-11 at 11:04, Pierre Abbat wrote:
> On Saturday 11 October 2003 09:16, And Rosta wrote:
> > John, on another list:
> > > Then there are Bach-Peters sentences, like "The pilot that shot at it
> > > hit the MIG that chased him", where looking for the referents of "it"
> > > and "him" sends you in a closed circle....
> >
> > So: How to translate into Lojban? With the same referential loop?
>=20
> le vijysazri poi celre'o fi [?] cu darxi le me my.ibugy. poi jersi ra
> Not obvious what "[?]" should be. There is no pronoun that refers to a=20
> postcedent sumti, as {ra, ri, ru} refer to an antecedent. {la'edi'e} migh=
t=20
> work, but {di'e} etc. usually refer to at least a clause, so the pilot sh=
ot=20
> at the event of the MIG chasing him, which makes no sense.

Possibly:

le vijysazri poi celre'o fi le se no'a cu darxi le me my.ibugy. poi
jersi ra

Or maybe you can use vo'e there?

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