From lojbab@lojban.org Thu Oct 16 13:19:43 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Thu, 16 Oct 2003 13:19:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lakemtai03.cox.net ([68.1.17.252]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.22) id 1AAEai-0000Fc-9I for lojban-list@lojban.org; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 13:19:24 -0700 Received: from bob.lojban.org ([68.100.92.1]) by lakemtao02.cox.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031016185717.BZBT17750.lakemtao02.cox.net@bob.lojban.org> for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 14:57:17 -0400 Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.0.20031016144431.03358320@pop.east.cox.net> X-Sender: lojbab@pop.east.cox.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 14:50:54 -0400 To: lojban-list@lojban.org From: Bob LeChevalier Subject: [lojban] Re: {Archivist} Intention of gunma? In-Reply-To: <20031015233936.GO3468@digitalkingdom.org> References: <20030703004556.95391.qmail@web41902.mail.yahoo.com> <20030702213610.GH3306@digitalkingdom.org> <20030703004556.95391.qmail@web41902.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-archive-position: 6447 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: lojbab@lojban.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list At 04:39 PM 10/15/03 -0700, Robin Lee Powell wrote: >On Wed, Jul 02, 2003 at 05:45:56PM -0700, Jorge Llamb?as wrote: > > > Robin Lee Powell wrote: > > > > > > Was the intention of the definition of gunma to allow things > > > like: > > > > > > le cecmu cu gunma mi > > > > > > Or do we need to do things like > > > > > > le cecmu cu gunma lu'i mi ce da le cecmu cu se pagbu mi corresponds to what I think the first sentence is trying for. The "intent" (however sloppy) was le cecmu cu gunma mi joi da (unless I am the only component of the mass). but I believe current thinking would make it le cecmu cu gunma mi ce da I don't think that the lu'i is required, and it seems odd with no type-conversion and only 2 "members" listed. -- lojbab lojbab@lojban.org Bob LeChevalier, Founder, The Logical Language Group (Opinions are my own; I do not speak for the organization.) Artificial language Loglan/Lojban: http://www.lojban.org